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#54098
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 10 Months ago  
Fantastic work Biowizard! I am really impressed with the way you have highlighted each book.The labels on the jars and bottles are outstanding and creative and just alot of fun.Im inspired to get another library and do it again.Thank you for posting.
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#54135
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 10 Months ago  
Thank you for the great compliment!

Your books looks great!

The purple are my favorite books!
I love both libraries. It has a lot of atmosphere with the rugs, chairs, tables and candles in the DoE world. And it is a nice size!

Incredible Detail-Photos!
Welcome to the club of the Thomarillion-Bookshelf-Painting-Victims. ;)

A lot of work for the magician, to study all books of your library!
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#54138
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 10 Months ago  
Seriously! They are IMPOSSIBLE to paint! GAh! I bow to all who have posted their Thomarillion bookshelves, I have never been satisfied with mine. The woodgrain I came up with is adequate, but the books themselves always look muddy and wrong to me. sighh
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#54146
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 10 Months ago  
Law, there's no magic to it. I used a few tricks that are easily accessible to any painter. First, I undercoated all books white to have the colors to be put over them to be more vivid! Then, I made sure to black-line each and every one of them to enhance future contrasts. After that, I painted them with 2 coats (sometimes 3 depending on the color) of the base color (so that the color were uniform) followed by one slight coat (slightly diluted) on the top edges with a lighter version of the base coat for highlights. Finally, painting with common acrylics helps a lot (I kind of remember law that you use unusual paints as compared to most fantasy mini painters).
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#54176
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 10 Months ago  
Interesting. My approach has been compromised by having less time lately, but this is how I painted my first set of bookshelves, back when they were plaster:

I used a spray-on black primer to coat the whole thing, and also fill in recesses. I was a fan of that method as a "cheat" since it both gave all the benefits of primer AND an almost-inkwash, so that I had that "blacklining" already done. For something like this, it meant I could just paint the raised surfaces of the books and still have everything sharply delineated.

Then I would do the books in two or three coats, and then add metallic highlights where appropriate.

The problem I had this time was that I didn't have any black primer so I simply tried an inkwash as a second step, and it basically worked, but not as well as the black primer would have. The wash beaded up instead of slipping into corners, so a lot of deeper recesses between books just didn't get a wash, and I had to manually go into them with black paint. The whole process became messier and less smooth than I'm used to.

The main problem I have, though, is that, for all my painting experience, I'm still very bad at "free-hand" and anything like it. I rely a lot on drybrushing and inkwashing to achieve the effects I do, and for something like these books, if you want straight, uniform color, without bleeding over or looking messy, those techniques only get you so far. My shelves look fine, I think, but they don't look STELLAR. For that, I'd need a steadier hand, making sure that each individual book gets a uniform coverage. Sadly, I just am not as good at that as I'd like to be. Practice, practice, practice.

Oh, and ftr, I have switched over to Citadel paints. When I moved, my paints were running low and generally a mess, and as part of the "gah, overwhelmed, pick your battles" involved in a cross-country move, I said "#$@#$ it, leave the paints." So when I had to buy new ones for the occasional mini, I just went with Citadel. ;) Now I'm realizing that for inkwashse with these paints, I can't just dilute the paint with water. I need to buy the proper inkwashes as well.
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#54177
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 10 Months ago  
Can anyone tell me the usual time between ordering from Thomarillion and getting the followup email regarding actual shipping costs? I ordered about a week ago and haven't heard from them.
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#54178
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 9 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
That's unusual -- I've only placed two orders, but in both cases they got back to me within a day. Maybe two, but I really think it was one, it was very fast. Drop them a follow-up, maybe something slipped through the cracks.
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#54180
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 9 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
nielsene,

Thommy is the name of the only guy running Thomarillion, all by himself. You can reach him at "info@thomaREMOVETHESECAPITALSrillion.de". He's a very nice guy and I always had great services from him. Within the last week, he posted pictures of my bookshelves on his website alongside Crazy Herald's (what an honor...) and he told me his whole town where he lives was out of internet service for a few days which might explain your experience. I suggest you try again contacting him by email directly. Also, I guess adding products directly to carts is not the right way to go when you live in America as the price of products has to be changed to deduct the VAT tax value already included in prices and calculate appropriately shipping fees (I guess this cannot be calculated appropriately until the box is closed and weighed). Just tell him what you want by email and he'll send you a Paypal invoice. Hope that helps!
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#54181
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 9 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
Law, Painting a whole book green while not putting green paint on the book right beside is not per definition doing "free-hand" but I think I understand what you mean by not having a "steady hand". In my humble experience, more than 90% of people have hands "steady enough" to put paint only on one book. Are you sure your brushes are of sufficient quality? My painting technique improved a lot when I learned that the sizes of the brushes you use matter little in comparison to how fine the tip of the brush ends! As an example, I took a picture of 3 of my brushes:



The one I called "perfect" is a size 2 Round Winsor & Newton Artists' Water Colour Sable brush. I paid something like $12 for it and I make sure to take very great care of it, cleaning it regularly with my Winsor & Newton Brush Cleaner & Restorer. This is what I used to do the details on the maps and do the pupils of eyes of minis I paint. This is also the brush I used to undercoat two or three times each and every book and then the highlights. The fact that it is "big", as compared to sizes 1, 0.5, 00 and 000 available around, makes it that the paint on it does not dry on it before you can actually apply it. The fine control of application is achieved by its very fine tip. The worst thing you could do with such a brush is forcing it down in perpendicular in some whole on miniatures such as for painting the inside of resin air bubbles. For this, I use the "so-so" brush which I don't mind much bending the bristles more. You can see that its tip is not ending into a sharp mathematical point. I also used this brush to make the undercoats of large areas (such as the shelves). Finally, I use my "very bad" brush to do some small dry brushing. I did not use it in the present project but having very disorganized bristles is very useful to paint chain mails and the likes on minis.
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#54184
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 9 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
Thanks for the help regarding my order. I emailed him got a response back, everything is good. His original shipping quote had ended up in my spam folder (I have to admit it does look surprisingly like a 419 spam letter).
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#54187
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 9 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
Biowizard, if only you lived near me. I would love to come over and check out your stuff. Such beautiful and creative setups!
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#54188
Re:My Evil Underdark Thomarillion Library 9 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
Biowizard -- Yeah, I know, I was using "freehand" loosely, normally it refers to actually just painting some design or image onto a mini that has no actual sculpted definition for it, like painting a dragon on someone's cloak, etc. But as you noted, I was using it for the same basic point, which is that my hand just isn't steady enough to get the precision I want. I do use a very specific narrow brush for detail work, so while I wish I could blame my tool, I can't.

The reason I called it "freehand," though, is because the problem isn't that I get paint on the book next to the book I'm painting, but because I want to preserve the black primer between books, I want that line, and the color distribution on the books ends up being uneven. It's not splotchy, it doesn't have spillage onto other surfaces, but it isn't a completely even, uniform look either.

It's subtle enough that if you just look at my bookshelves on their own, you wouldn't think they look messy or that they aren't uniformly painted -- but when you compare them to yours, you can see the difference.
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