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#55049
Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Putting magnets in minis or miniatures terrain keeps coming up, and I'm curious whether magnets have ever actually been used successfully in commercial fantasy gaming products (other than miniature bases and movement trays).

Does anyone know of any, and can you provide a link?
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#55051
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I too am very interested in the concept of adding magnets to 3D terrain and minis. I will be watching this thread closely for any information that is shared concerning this topic :-)
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#55069
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Jack - did you mean adding magnets to a df wall to attach an item thereon?

I have used magnets for arm / weapon swaps on some of my character models but thats about it. They are useful in minature wargames to add flexbility to more expensive minis - like 40k dreadnoughts, etc.
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#55071
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
That's the kind of suggestion that prompted the thread, yes.

Right now I'm only interested in products that were manufactured and sold with magnets already in place. I may expand the topic to include custom work later, but right now I am trying to gauge the commercial viability of magnet inserts. Failed commercial endeavors along these lines are also of interest.
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#55082
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jackattack wrote:
I'm curious whether magnets have ever actually been used successfully in commercial fantasy gaming products (other than miniature bases and movement trays).Alea tools
Dungeonworks (old)
Blackmyre's Magnetic tiles
Bendy walls and accessories
GameMastery Combat Pad
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#55100
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Okay, that's a set of stackable colored magnets that go under miniatures to denote status, magnetic floors and walls for modular indoor 3D terrain, a printed magnetic sheet for 2D terrain, another set of magnetic floors with clip-on adaptors to hold walls in place, and a metal initiative tracker with magnet indicators to point out who's up next.

Do I understand correctly that the Dungeonworks and Blackmyre products are no longer available?
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#55139
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Do I understand correctly that the Dungeonworks and Blackmyre products are no longer available?Correct: they are no longer being produced (they are available on ebay though, of course).
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#55148
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I would say the reason you don't see much of it would be for liability reasons. Small magnets and kids don't go well together and in this sue crazy world we live in all it would take is for a small magnet to fall off the mini and a kid to put it into his mouth and it would be a lawsuit waiting to happen unfortunately.

If someone swallows a magnet or two it's pretty much a guaranteed trip to the hospital and surgery. (This comes from my wife, a pediatrician.)
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#55156
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I'm sure that's part of it, but this is a product that previously included toxic substances, and still includes small parts with sharp edges that would be fairly bad news if swallowed.

Let's expand the question to custom work. What kind of work is being done by modders to use magnets in miniatures and/or terrain? Is any of it on sale, or being done on commission?
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#55350
Re:Magnets in Minis 8 Months ago  
Okay...

We had an earlier response regarding arm/weapon swaps. I've seen some blog posts about backpack swaps as well. I would guess that heads and shields might also be doable.

But what I'm not seeing is that this is a financially viable way of producing miniatures. Or terrain. It's strictly an after-market extra installed by enthusiasts for their own use.

The advantages (for minis) seems to be versatility -- if you have additional bits for your mini, you can swap them out and have the mini do double or triple or nth-tuple duty. But you still have to paint the extra bits, and you have to successfully install magnets in the base piece and all of the bits. It would also seem to require more careful handling during play to avoid knocking the magnetized extra off the mini.

I have three examples of magnets being used to anchor modular indoor terrain. Both of the examples posted above featured free-standing walls over walls attached to floors. In addition to the two above, there was a kickstarter recently that featured modular indoor terrain made of laser cut wood with magnets to hold the pieces in place. Since the kickstarter failed, that's also three examples that are not in production.

Other than holding pieces in place -- which would require that every piece be magnetic or have magnets installed -- I think the other use for magnets is to hold decorative bits to plain piece. (Which is appealing, since not everyone wants to permanently alter a straight wall piece to hold a shield or a tapestry.) But it seems that it would be simpler to have a piece with a small hole for a peg, rather than go to the extra expense of having a magnet glued into a hole and then painted over. (And remember that if the magnet is put in the wrong way, it will repel the other magnet that it was supposed to attract.)

Does anyone have an argument for why magnets are desirable in minis and terrain, and/or for how they can be made financially viable?
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