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#60103
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Here is the side-by-side comparison. The original picture, printed on paper is on the left, the middle one is printed on straight material, and the right one is printed after the material has been painted with a primer.


The closeup shows you the amount of detail which has gone into creating the tapestry. The antique gold finials cap off the gold bar to which the tapestry is mounted. The gold ropes with tassels are strung exactly has they would be on a real tapestry.

* You would never know but behind the tapestry is a secret door. Shhhh!

I hope you like! I am still working on a couple different mounting systems/brackets for the tapestry to accommodate single height walls and double height walls.
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#60106
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Very nice!


I think it would be great if you made one from the middle one with tarnished finial caps and gold bar and dirty gold ropes and tattered tassels. perhaps a few tears in the tapestry also.

Then you could have a nice one and a old one for the abandoned lairs.

Perhaps an arrow or broken spear stuck into the tapestry with blood stains.
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#60107
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
The quality of your work keeps getting better and better. Congrats on this neat project.

The image you choose to print seems really authentic, I imagine an old keep in medieval times to hold one of these. For my D&D RPG games though, I would prefer something with more of a fantasy theme. If you print tapestries with vampires, dragons, treasures, maps, royalty portraits and knights on them, count me in as a potential client.
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#60108
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
@kodiakbear

Thanks! I'm really happy with the final version. As for the faded test version, that's a good idea. I did want to make a ruined tapestry; maybe that one can be my test piece for it.

@biowizard

Thanks for the compliment. I would like to do some more fantasy themed tapestries, but wanted to make sure I could find real tapestries (much different look to painted artwork) that is in the public domain first. I definitely don't want to sell anything that's copyright.

That being said, there is a lot of fantasy art out there that I can tap into either that's free for commercial use (certainly private use isn't an issue) or that I can license, but that's a whole other set of issues I didn't want to deal with during R&D.
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#60118
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
This tapestry is called "To My One Desire", one of a series of six called "The Lady and the Unicorn" from Flanders, circa 1510.

Here's a quick-and-dirty explanation of copyright and art that seems fairly credible.
www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/940560
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#60121
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jackattack wrote:
This tapestry is called "To My One Desire", one of a series of six called "The Lady and the Unicorn" from Flanders, circa 1510.

Here's a quick-and-dirty explanation of copyright and art that seems fairly credible.
www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/940560
Thanks for the link. I've done a lot of research into copyright in the past but this was a new area for me when I looked into it this past week. What I found would seem to contradict one of the posters from that link, namely that if someone took a photo of a piece of art then they own the copyright to their photo. Normally this would be correct, however, in the specific case of taking a photo of artwork head on with the purpose of capturing the work as a whole then no copyright can be claimed as there is no unique artistic quality added by the photographer.

As for the "older than 100 years" the general period is correct due to the US law which is the life of the artist + 70 years. But there are other factors such as estates which may have licensing rights.

Lastly, there's nothing in copyright that gives a museum the right to charge for reproductions of art. Again, it's more the fact they have ownership of the art, similar to a private art collector, however with a public museum this becomes rather dubious and some believe a breach of public trust as all public should have unfettered access. I should clarify that I'm referring to works in the public domain.
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#60123
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
The thread addressed the point about photographs.

GOOD NEWS: For paintings, drawings and other two-dimensional media, you can use a third-party photo of the public domain artwork if the photo is an exact reproduction or "slavish copying".

BAD NEWS: If there is any originality -- an angle that is not head on, using a fisheye lens, having lighting on one side but not the other -- then you cannot use the third-party photo. Similarly, photos of 3D media such as sculptures do not qualify since there is an artistic aspect to the lighting, camera position, background, etc.


In a venture that involves reproducing specific images, I would go by specific laws, not what some believe. Especially if money is involved.



Concerning museums charging for reproductions of artwork, it's not a copyright that gives them the right to charge for (head-on) reproductions, it's the expense of producing them. Restrictions on taking photographs in public museums are not an issue of ownership or access, but preservation. Flash photography (not your one particular flash photograph, but thousands in the course of a year) can actually harm the chemicals in the pigments, typically resulting in fading.
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#60124
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jackattack wrote:
The thread addressed the point about photographs.

GOOD NEWS: For paintings, drawings and other two-dimensional media, you can use a third-party photo of the public domain artwork if the photo is an exact reproduction or "slavish copying".

BAD NEWS: If there is any originality -- an angle that is not head on, using a fisheye lens, having lighting on one side but not the other -- then you cannot use the third-party photo. Similarly, photos of 3D media such as sculptures do not qualify since there is an artistic aspect to the lighting, camera position, background, etc.

I missed that section. I confess, I read through it rather quick on my phone while eating lunch... and, I was pulling a lot of it from memory instead of specifics from a site on hand.


In a venture that involves reproducing specific images, I would go by specific laws, not what some believe. Especially if money is involved.
Exactly my point. Again, I appreciate you posting the information and the fact that you are aware of the issues. I, myself, like to make sure of such things as well; dot my i's and cross my t's, as it were.


Concerning museums charging for reproductions of artwork, it's not a copyright that gives them the right to charge for (head-on) reproductions, it's the expense of producing them. Restrictions on taking photographs in public museums are not an issue of ownership or access, but preservation. Flash photography (not your one particular flash photograph, but thousands in the course of a year) can actually harm the chemicals in the pigments, typically resulting in fading.
My point was exactly that too. They have ownership/stewardship of the artwork and therefore control it's dissemination/consumption thus can control it's access. The point you make is completely valid about the harm to the artwork that can be caused by flashes, etc. My point was that even some museums believe they have some right that falls under copyright, and they don't.... and on the other side, there are people who feel that they should have unrestricted access so if they take a camera into a museum to take a picture of a public domain artwork then they have every right since that artwork belongs to the public, essentially.
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#60128
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Everybody wants to use national parks, but no one wants to take care of them.
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#60129
Re:Tapestries 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jackattack wrote:
Everybody wants to use national parks, but no one wants to take care of them.

Lol! Maybe that's what our Outdoor Recreation program at the local University where I live is for... I always wondered what jobs those kids got after graduation.
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