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#59515
Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Yeah, I thought that title might get your interest ;-)

Here's the background to this: I read on one of the threads that it's cheaper to buy real clear crystals vs. resin so I bought some off ebay for one of my DF forum inspired projects.

Now I'm looking for gemstones for treasure piles. I looked at Michaels and either missed them or they don't carry anything small enough. So I tried googling and cannot seem to get the right search term. This morning I tried again, but for 'lot of synthetic rubies'... and this is what I found:
http://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/166483135/2mm-round-cz-multi-color-mix-cubic?ref=related-5



They come in 2mm and larger sizes and the price seems decent. If anyone knows where I can get anything cheaper at that quality and very small size then I'd be grateful. I'm trying to add this to some treasure piles and want some on hand if I need to build a larger gold pile or embellish some mod I'm doing.
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#59520
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
A very good idea!
The idea of using real gems would have never entered my head.
Do you have an idea of how to find/make small plates and cups? I am planing a very large treasure pile as well.
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#59530
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
@jchunick - I have started using some very tiny self-adhesive rhinestones. I believe the smallest one is 1.5mm. The next size up is 2mm, which I personally found a little larger than I want for my treasure piles. I would love to find some that are 1mm, but my brief research has not turned anything up yet. The rhinestones were less than $2 and can often be bought either on sale or with a coupon that takes off up to 60% depending on the offer currently available. I source them from Michael's, Jo-ann Fabric, and Hobby Lobby.

@Oldmanwillow - I have seen dollhouse accessory sections that have toys for the doll children. I have seen a set that included tableware for the dolls of the dolls. I did not take a close look at the time, but the scale might lend itself to 25-28mm. Another method I can recommend is to use small stamps to make a mold from tin foil that you can pour some resin into to make your own. If you can find pen caps to cut off sometimes the tips can be repurposed to make bottle or mugs. You can also use very small and thin tubing to make dishware with by cutting sections out of it. I'm sure there are many more ideas out there.
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#59532
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
@LordDust
I will probably get the flat stick on plastic gems to but wanted to also have the whole gem showing.

@Oldmanwillow
To add to LordDust, 28mm is about 1/58 scale. You can get away with 1/54 (30mm) to 1/64 (25mm) scale and I think dollhouse stuff will mostly be listed by scale.
Here's a good scale chart I found http://theminiaturespage.com/ref/scales.html
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#59533
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Thanks for the tips.
I may have to make a punch from tubing for the plates.
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#59540
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
In 28mm scale, 2mm is equivalent to 5.14 inches.
In 25mm scale, 2 mm is equivalent to 5.76 inches.
Definitely the sort of gems that would have interesting and bloody histories behind them.

Did you try the manufacturers' websites to see if they have sizes that Michael's doesn't carry? Did you try using the description of those products (from the labels) as search terms?
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#59541
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
@jack - I had not yet, I am planning to do some more in depth searching soon, thank you for the suggestions.

@jchunick - Another thought occurred to me... you could check out a local rock and gem show to see if anyone that cuts their own stones has any scrap bits left that could be bought on the cheap and added to a pile.

@Oldmanwillow - You're very welcome to whatever I can contribute. If you do craft some of your own please feel free to post them for us all to check out!
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#59542
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
@Oldmanwillow
You can find some dollhouse miniatures stuff that would work:
www.manorhouseminis.com/product.asp?Sku=FMASS3019 - pie plate that would work.
www.manorhouseminis.com/cat.asp?Page=2&CatID=81 - vases and urns... bigger selection than you'll find on most fantasy mini sites.
www.manorhouseminis.com/product.asp?Sku=JLM159 - fancy oval platter.
www.manorhouseminis.com/product.asp?Sku=JLM154 - another fancy platter.
www.manorhouseminis.com/product.asp?Sku=JLM214 - fancy round brass tray.
www.manorhouseminis.com/product.asp?Sku=D2302-05 - 4 fancy silver plates.
www.manorhouseminis.com/cat.asp?CatID=86 - tea sets.
www.manorhouseminis.com/cat.asp?CatID=10 - miniature Turkish rugs which has been mentioned in another thread by biowizard.

These would all be great pieces in an epic treasure hoard.
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#59545
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
That is a very cool link. 1/12 scale is large but there are some things that will work I am sure.
Thanks
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#59546
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
@jackattack

I found an even smaller lot, 1.5mm multi color cubic zirconia lot (100 pcs.)
for $10.19, free int'l shipping.

Here is the auction:
www.ebay.ca/itm/Round-1mm-to-10mm-Multi-Color-Cubic-Zirconia-Stone-VVS-Grade-CZ-Lot-Free-Shippin-/230710457303
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Proud Father of two mini-geeks; Daughter: "Dad, what does that say?" (after enchanting a diamond sword in Minecraft).
Me: "Sharpness 1, Knockback 1"
Daughter: "Oh man, that's sweet!"
 
#59547
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Oldmanwillow wrote:
That is a very cool link. 1/12 scale is large but there are some things that will work I am sure.
Thanks

The way I look at it is as long as it's close and looks good it's more a representation than an actual scale model.
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Me: "Sharpness 1, Knockback 1"
Daughter: "Oh man, that's sweet!"
 
#59548
Re:Sourcing Real Gems for Modding 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jchunick,

Good luck with your project. Make sure to show us the results for our delight.

The rhinestones I had used for my own treasure pile, I picked them up at Michael's Arts & Crafts back when I used to live in the US. I believe they were the right scale and the packages contained many possible sizes and colors. ...they were not real gems though. ;-(
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