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#59052
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months, 1 Week ago  
@JasonYoung

Thanks! I'm still trying some changes with the next one - blood pool insert - due to the blue water insert having a small indentation in the middle which corresponded with the indentation in the middle of the DF tile pool.

@igelkott

Thanks! I appreciate the compliment. If things turn out well then I might consider making and selling the inserts - the still water inserts with free printed inserts (since I don't own the rights to the tile graphics).

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With this next one - the blood pool insert - I'm documenting my steps so I'll have a full step-by-step writeup in a couple days when it's finished curing.

In the meantime, below is a photo of my tests. The purplish one was done with the red and black ink with a bit of blue. I added too much black and blue and ended up with the purple. The red came out about right, and that was by playing with very little blue ink.

The green sludge pool will was the most involved. It's done using a green ink along with a fluorescent green paint (both Vallejo). Half is laid down and then, when cured enough the other half is poured. I then added some more florescent green and used a toothpick to draw it across the top in patterns, sort of how barristas make fancy patterns in the foam of espressos. It really just coats the top. Then, after it's set for awhile I take the toothpick again and break up the surface covering... some of the paint falls off and down toward the bottom layer. What stays on top is broken into smaller islands of surface paint. I'm thinking of adding another colour to give it a bit more variety and mottling.
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#59053
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months, 1 Week ago  
I have another idea I think I'm going to try. I want to maybe add some floating body parts to a version of it. Maybe I'll try it in a version of the blood pool or the green slime pool. Maybe even showing someone trying to get out of the pool, all covered in slime like the pool is alive and pulling them down.

... anyways, if anyone has some ideas I'd be very interested in reading them.
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#59057
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months, 1 Week ago  
This idea gets another YOU ROCK THE FREE WORLD!!! I am going to steal your idea but I will use scenic railroads water effects. I have a big jug of the stuff from a project last year. Thanks for the idea.

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Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months, 1 Week ago  
Shadox wrote:
This idea gets another YOU ROCK THE FREE WORLD!!! I am going to steal your idea but I will use scenic railroads water effects. I have a big jug of the stuff from a project last year. Thanks for the idea.

-Shadox

Thanks!

... but I still have a long way to go from idea to conception ;-)
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#59135
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months ago  
The Pool of Sorrows Water Insert Tutorial

1. Use kids' crayola crayons - in this case, red - to colour/cover the inside edge of the pool in red. I am not doing the bottom this time; it turns out I was correct and didn't need it.



2. Find a small container. Fill up the pool with water to the level you want and then pour that into the container or, if needed, into a larger container and then into the smaller container. Make a mark just above the water line with tape. This will be how much Vallejo Still Water liquid you will need.


3. Dump out the water from the container and dry it. Now, pour in the Vallejo Still Water until you reach your mark. If you feel you need a bit more then add some, it won't hurt.




4. Add less than a drop for a very translucent tint such as a aqua blue for normal water. For this one I added about 8 drops of Vallejo Red, then a drop of Vallejo Blue. This turned out to be too much and turned very dark (see pics) so I had to add another 12 drops of red. That was fine, in my case as I wanted it very opaque, like blood. Make sure to mix well.





5. Pour about 1/2 of it into the pool. This will help to level off the surface and help with even setting. One of my tests revealed that the centre indent in the pool was reflected in the surface when pouring the whole container of liquid at once. It will take at least 24 hours to set. Of course, make sure you have used a container with a lid or can cover it up so the rest of the liquid doesn't set as well.




6. Once it's set, pour the rest and let it finish setting over another 24 hours or more. After 24 hours you can test gently with your finger to see if it feels firm or gives like it's still liquid underneath.




7. As soon as it's set you can use a hairdryer to melt the wax around the edge. this will help pull the set liquid from the edge of the pool.






8. Now you can use an exacto knife or some other tool with a thin end to carefully pull up one edge (see pics).



9. Once you have enough of an edge up you can try flexing the pool to loosen it from the bottom and gently pull the lifted edge to release the rest of the set liquid (now plastic).



10. Once it's fully removed you should clean the wax from the edges of the pool with the hair dryer and paper towel or cloth.



11. Re-inserting it can be tricky, but if you find some way to mark the insert and pool to align them again, that would be the best solution. I haven't done that yet, but will later.

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#59136
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months ago  
Let me know if you liked the tutorial and post any of your mods of the pool, please.

Thanks. ;-)
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#59173
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months ago  
You my friend are a genius!

Awesome tutorial - i will not have time to attempt this for awhile, but i will definitely use this method, the results are tremendous. I will do at minimum safe clear blue water and electric acid green (i have the painted CoS for the blood red... but may add a clear layer just to make it even better).

Thank you for taking the time to clearly lay out your method so we can all benefit from your experience!
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#59175
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months ago  
Acid green you say?... I just started this tonight :-)





Just to quickly go over what I did... I mixed several drops of the green ink with about 3-5 drops of the fluorescent green paint. Mix very thoroughly. Then I poured about half into the pool. After a few hours, when it was set a bit and thicker, I added 4 drops of the fluorescent green, spaced out, to the pool and gently swirled the drops around like how barristas make those fancy patterns in espressos... we'll see how well it keeps... although it's been a couple more hours and seems to be staying quite well... I should add that I was going to do a clear (or clearer) 2nd top coat so I can see the underlying patterns and also repeat the process of adding and swirling paint drops after it's set for a bit... I wanted to give a more 3D depth look. In hindsight I should have only mixed about half so I could make the second half a bit more transparent. Oh well, it's not too much waste to dilute it.
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#59201
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months ago  
that looks eerily fantastic.... your acid is alive!!!
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#59203
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months ago  
kitenerd wrote:
that looks eerily fantastic.... your acid is alive!!!

:D Thanks!

It did turn out f*ing awesome, if I do say so myself. Actually, I was quite surprised since in my initial test (there's a pic several posts previous) the fluorescent paint did some completely different stuff and globbed up.
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#59213
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months ago  
@jchunick - The idea of inserts is brilliant, but the execution of the acid pool is downright magical!!!

Thanks for the detailed instructions and pictures. This has just been added to my ever growing list of DF projects :)
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#59217
Re:Painting the Pool in the Chamber of Sorrows 9 Months ago  
And the tutorial totally paid off!

Well done! Both look great, but the acid pool really stands out as fantastic.

These will be super fun to experiment with... a half floating body in either would just be sick/cool.

If I had a Chamber I would be all over this.

lol

I'll figure something out eventually on that.

All my discipline is currently focused on waiting for the cavern KS.
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