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#63563
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Thanks Bio, Nate, and all!

@ Bio--indeed, production cost has been a concern from inception with 6 unique block tiles. I'm curious though what we'd all pay for uber cool, modular waterfall components that marry our elevation blocks and water cavern tiles, especially considering 3,950 crazies raised $2.14 M. This idea probably needs to head to a survey if it passes Zaltar's trials.
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#63565
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Love this! Instant buy. Then again, I might not be a good gauge since I was instant buy on everything they offered in both KS1 and KS2...
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#63566
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Oh, and one nice thing about this design is that it doesn't need many elevation blocks. Most of the interior of a build will be hidden and could be scraps of wood, cardboard boxes, foam blocks, etc.
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#63568
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
@ ebrandeis - ha.. you and me alike--resistance is certainly futile. You're absolutely right about using basic material for interior build ups. Also, there may be scenarios where you have waterfall(s), more or less, as a backdrop with access to a cave and would use these to fill a single row along with some elevation pedestals. If you had a short waterfall, you could use 2 concave water tiles to form a bubbling spring at the top.
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#63570
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I am going to make one for my self regardless.Very nice design.
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#63583
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
i LOVE this design... this is an entire add on pack in and of itself and with 6 beefy blocks plus accessory rocks it could be a very pricey one. Elevations was 50/70 for 3 blocks and a bridge. This would likely be higher for fewer pieces.

If the sculpting is cleverly done and the water is painted, could it be possible that the right top of falls and the left top of falls are the same piece flipped? Same could be done for right and left side. For the middle pieces we have four sides to work with. Could the top middle be flipped to be a lower middle? (with the curved part buried inside). This piece could even have two different water flow faces to break up the visual pattern.

Now we are down to 3 blocks and a rubble piece, the same configuration as the Elevation pack.
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#63604
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
You could also make the rubble part a stepped waterfall/cascade and make everyone happy.
I prefer the cube design but a water fall could also be a free standing part that would fit between existing walls. The waterfall could be designed as a new wall section.
The most radical solution would be to design the waterfall section as a rock face to be used with The Woodland Scenic Realistic Water and Water Effects.

How to use.


Using the Water Effect to make a waterfall.


The over hang would be the critical part. Someone with Zaltar's talent could make something truly incredible.
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#63607
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
If the units being solid blocks caused a problem it could still be done with regular shaped tiles as well. Just imaging a floor/wall tile, leave the inside blank and paint the waterfall on the outside and bottom, there's your dropping point piece. Use floor tiles as verticals pieces. You'd have to put something underneath this type of set up to hold it all up but it would work, not as well as solid blocks but if that's not feasible then this could still be done. Only problem might be stacking the verticals pieces but maybe they could be cast so that they lock together in the back or something, it wouldn't take much
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#63609
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
This is exactly how I saw a waterfall needing to be done. a left, a right, and a middle... though the addition of a top and a bottom tier looks awesome. you are right that it might not fit into a full wicked additions pack but a waterfall add-on to the water pack would be awesome and I would buy that in a heartbeat. Multiples! (i got 3xwater in the KS)

if Stefan does a waterfall, it behooves him to make it compatable with the river pack, in some fashion. it will do noone any good it if is a single piece that can't be connected to an actual river...

the bare min has to be at least a left and a right. though the middle and the upper/lower increase the modular aspects of it and allows you to mix and match the builds. I would expect it to cost similar to the elevations pack. or the pedestal pack. that is ok for me. but the outcome is TREMENDOUS... those concept pics are exactly what I had envisioned in my head. i tried to explain it in words, but your pics do so much more for it.

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#63611
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
another option, if you are doing the large square blocks for the height portion, you might be able to sculpt 4 different sides to the waterfall elevation. so one side could be straight falls, one corner could be rock so that the two adjoining sides would be rock on the right and the other rock on the left, and then the last side could be a different straight falls sculpt.

that one waterfall elevation block could be just like the pedestal in that how you rotate it will show a different scupted side out while the rest is hidden in the build itself.

and if the two water sculpted sides touched and you wanted to make a corner water fall this would allow you to do that.

then you would only need different sculpts for the actual top pieces and rock formations to lay on top of the river tiles below.

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#63615
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
The overhang using Realistic Water isn't that hard. It just takes a little practice.


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#63618
Re:Wicked Addition Conceptual Sketch 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
@Jenney--awesome that you had a similar idea and are ready to plunk down the $$ for a good waterfall system. If more people give a thumbs up to the idea and are ready to show the money, say 'aye' in this thread! I think this may help sway the DF grandmaster, Zaltar, and I would really love to see Zaltar apply his magic hands to those crude sketches.

Although, the majority of gamers will probably go for the waterfall pack... also offering unpainted and painted Lavafall pack (which wouldn't cause any additional mold and casting fees) would expand the interest pool for the same set of blocks.
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