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#63266
The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Well,

I'm not sure if anyone made a dedicated thread to this (I looked back quite a ways through the forums and didn't see one) but I know last time *supported the first and second kickstarter!* we pretty rapidly started to toss around ideas for what we'd like to see next.

Not only am I interested in voicing my ideas, but I really wanted to see other ideas that people have come up with!

I've heard people talk a lot about buildings, and that's certainly something I would be interested in as well. I don't know how feasible it is to have multiple building styles, but I'd love to see not only the Medieval buildings but also the Sci-Fi ones!

I really hope there's a future in the Sci-Fi line. I read somewhere once that they were not as popular as the other tiles, and while they would make a terrible kickstarter on their own most likely, I think they would be an amazing 'side addition' much like the Game Tiles Passages were with the Cavern's kickstarter! I spent about $350 more (And convinced a friend to get some too!) this time because of the passages and really liked getting content from another source.

Personal preference! I am so into the Sci-Fi tiles though. I just wish I could get more Alpha and Beta sets!

Anyway, that's my 2 copper! Thanks for reading, and hope to hear other thoughts!

- Joe
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#63285
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I like the idea of a city set. The base set could be the medieval building set with stretch goals like windows, secret bookcase door, railings for balconies, followed by addon sets like a wooden building set and a sewer set. I would buy a minimum of 3 of each plus addons. And, if at all possible, various sizes of roofs.
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#63288
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Man, talk about no rest for the wicked!

;)

But, yeah, I'm sure a lot of us are mulling over what we'd like to see, if there's a third KS somewhere down the line.

First, I agree with some comments I've read in the past that the Medieval Building Set stuff would be a pretty simple transition to dwarvenite, and it WOULD be nifty.

I'm always going to be partial to SciFi, I've got a ton of the resin on hand and could always use more, but one thing in particular makes SF stand out as a good candidate, in spite of the lower sales of it in resin. One of the big sticking points with SF has always been that everyone has a different idea of what "flavor" of science fiction they want it to be. Clean, ultra high tech? Grungy, lived-in universe? Dark and grimy dystopian future? While the mostly silver finish of the resin is a good compromise, and acknowledging that buyers have ALWAYS been able to repaint if they want, there's a psychological hesitation to repaint what's already painted in some, and I daresay that unpainted dwarvenite, particularly if there's a pictorial example of how different paintjobs can radically alter the "flavor" of the pieces to suit the buyer's favored setting, might just be the thing to fire up the imaginations (and open the wallets) of many people who have only gotten into DF via the less expensive dwarvenite options.

As for other options, I'm somewhat ambivalent about RoA and DoE. I LOVE the settings, have a ton of those sets, too. And I'd LOVE to get boxes upon boxes of those settings in dwarvenite and cackle maniacally at my mega-uber temple to the evil gods, or admire the grandiosity of the huge complex of rooms left by a long gone civilization. But, the resin sets were always limited edition, so that MIGHT not sit well with some. I, personally, wouldn't have an issue with it, as the resin sets would still be limited, and there's clearly a difference between dwarvenite sets and resin, but it might bother some of the other DoE and RoA owners.

There are also other settings to be explored, though, I know a lot of folks want mines (which I think would best be an expansion for caverns, as mine tunnels would largely be a matter of dressed up passages) and sewers (which, again, would largely be a matter of passages, with precious few rooms).
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#63294
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
If the next kickstarter were buildings, I'd be in. Even if it started today.

I could also see some outdoor pieces - grass & dirt tiles, hills (instead of stairs), dirt roads, cobbled roads, and bushes/trees. Imagine tying a couple of these sets together using outdoor pieces like that!
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#63298
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I think its important for the next KS to he for medieval buildings. That would knock out the 3 most important types of terrain. I'd like to see something really nice for the set though so that all the buildings don't have to look the same. Several different types of not only doors but also windows would help with that. I'd really like to see it done in a sort of ramshackle style. I'd buy 10 sets for sure
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#63299
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Yea I agree with medieval buildings. It would require no sliding molds like the caverns making the pricing on par with the first KS and not to mention at the moment there is only 1 base set, an "advanced" builder set and and accessories set for MBS. With a KS to bring it to dwarvenite you could expand that line SO much with variant pieces accessories different wall textures all kinds of nifty things that just don't exist for it yet and yea I would be in for at least 10 sets I need some cities lol.
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#63301
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Talk of an MBS in Dwarvenite terrifies me, for one reason:

That is one set I was planning on getting in June, in resin.

I would honestly be pretty upset if I dropped 300 + T&S on 2 MBS sets in resin to have, a year later, KS3 for the MBS, which I would actually prefer.

Don't get me wrong - I love and cherish the few resin sets I have, but as a collector of games, and painter of miniatures, I trust the durability of Dwarvenite more than resin.

I have not ever damaged a piece of my resin through normal use, but I do worry about it. With Dwarvenite, I find myself not caring as much if something gets dinged or dropped. I know it's not gonna mess it up.

With that all being said, I just tripled my existing budget on KS2, so I am not even sure I will be ABLE to get the MBS in June.

I can tell you this though - if Stefan or Jeff got on the boards and confirmed or denied a MBS KS possibility, it would open up a few resin sets for resin collectors, as I would wait for the KS.

I will back, on some level, every KS that DF does, except for Sci-Fi. It is just not my thing. I am not knocking it, nor am I trying to screw over any Sci-Fi wanters, but it simply isn't my cup of tea, as I only play Fantasy. The ONLY time a set like that would EVER be broken out by me is for EttBP, which is a one shot thing. I usually don't buy stuff that will only be used once.

Sewers.....that could be very interesting, especially now that we just got shown that water is doable in Dwarvenite.

I don't understand the desire for a "mining" set. Seems to me that you would just take caverns and lay down train tracks? Maybe accessories, like carts and shovels, sure, but a floor / wall based set? That is iffy to me.

Not trying to poo-poo anyone's idea, just throwing out my coppers.
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#63304
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I would probably back a MBS set. I would probably also back a sewer set or a ruins set. I do hope that whichever set is chosen will be made of new sculpts, rather than reusing existing resin sculpts. I particularly hope this for MBS, since the current set is among my least favorite of the resin sets.

That's not to say that it's bad, I just don't think it's as good as other sets. After years of trying to figure out why, my girlfriend and I were looking at a half timbered house while on a walk and realized the problem at the same time. The wooden sections of the pieces are too thick and too frequent, leading to a very "stripy" appearance when a lot of them are together. Beyond that one issue, I think the pieces are wonderful, but I wanted to get that out there where Stefan could see it in case he's looking for feedback to sculpt a new Dwarvenite set. And while I'm suggesting things, I would also be interested in a full timbered (all wood) building set, or a wooden floor/stone wall set.

Honestly, I'll throw money at whatever they decide to do. :P


galladril wrote:

I don't understand the desire for a "mining" set. Seems to me that you would just take caverns and lay down train tracks? Maybe accessories, like carts and shovels, sure, but a floor / wall based set? That is iffy to me.


The only issue I see with that is that the cavern sets are a very specific type of cavern. They're limestone caverns formed by the slow movement of water. The majority of mines are in a very different sort of environment. Most precious metals and gems occur in much harder stone, and the mines are frequently dug out and reinforced with wood or other structures. So I can certainly understand the desire for a set that looks more like a gold or silver mine. Hard stone chipped away into a cavern, with occasional reinforcing structures.
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#63306
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Shadaraman wrote:


The only issue I see with that is that the cavern sets are a very specific type of cavern. They're limestone caverns formed by the slow movement of water. The majority of mines are in a very different sort of environment. Most precious metals and gems occur in much harder stone, and the mines are frequently dug out and reinforced with wood or other structures. So I can certainly understand the desire for a set that looks more like a gold or silver mine. Hard stone chipped away into a cavern, with occasional reinforcing structures.


And see, for that, I say: that would make a perfect addition or starting point from the "Dwarven Forge" set. :)
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#63307
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
What I would like in KS3
Medieval Building Set

The Base set

4 corners A
4 corners B
3 walls A
2 wall B
2 wall c
2 windows wall
9 floors
2 doors

SG
Wall a
Wall b
Wall c
Corner A
Corner B
Diagonal corner
Door
Window wall
Secret door
Trap door
Bear skin floor
Candle wall
Stairs
Shutters

Dressing add-on
Stairs
Pillars
Fireplace
Counter
Round table
Stools
Mugs/plates/food/kegs

Floor add-on
4 4X4 floors
Bear skin
Trapdoor

Other Add-ons
Sewers
Dungeon tiles floors
Dungeon tiles advanced builders pieces
Ruins
Streets
Cavern mining set
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#63308
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
galladril wrote:
Shadaraman wrote:


The only issue I see with that is that the cavern sets are a very specific type of cavern. They're limestone caverns formed by the slow movement of water. The majority of mines are in a very different sort of environment. Most precious metals and gems occur in much harder stone, and the mines are frequently dug out and reinforced with wood or other structures. So I can certainly understand the desire for a set that looks more like a gold or silver mine. Hard stone chipped away into a cavern, with occasional reinforcing structures.


And see, for that, I say: that would make a perfect addition or starting point from the "Dwarven Forge" set. :)


Where do I send money to make this happen. :P
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#63314
Re:The NEXT kickstarter?! Number 3! 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
To me caves are so close to mines that I wouldn't even buy a mine set, I'll just use my caves and throw some mining equipment in it. A mine add on pack would have been perfect for me. Something containing a cart, some tracks, some tools, a couple lanterns, and an entrance (at least we got that one).

Sewers would make a good add on pack for medieval buildings
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