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#66459
Re:Are we expecting a series of new painting videos? 3 Months ago  
I have said this before, and I will say it again:

Every single person paints differently, and there are so many variables that come into play on how a final piece ultimately looks, it's ridiculous.

I painted my own entire GT set. I used the Pokorny paints, and followed the steps, in an assembly line fashion, doing one color at a time for one step, then the next color for the next step, etc.

Even my own tiles have variances, and God knows I had enough to "practice" on, as I had well over 500 tiles that needed to be done. I took too much off the brush for this drybrush step, then THIS drybrush step had too much - things like that. The way you flick your hand as you drybrush plays in as well. It doesn't matter that we are all using the same colors and the same steps - they are going to have differences, piece to piece, and set to set.

I also paint under Ottlites, which are pure white. When I take my tiles from my painting room to actually game with - they look different, because of the lighting involved.

Now add in lighting situations from the pictures that were used as a reference. I am sure it's a different setup than the painters in China are using.

Stefan is an artist. He knows how to paint, sculpt, draw, and a million other things. I don't know that the people in China painting these have the same skillset and training that he does. I would be willing to bet that most of them do not.

My whole point in writing this (and if you are a painter, you already know this) is: by the very fact that they are hand painted, there are going to be differences in the way they look. While I understand that people might be upset that "it doesn't look 100% exactly like the original picture from a prototype months ago" does, I have enough faith in Stefan, his vision, and his product to know that they will turn out well.
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#66460
Re:Are we expecting a series of new painting videos? 3 Months ago  
Since it came up earlier in this thread, I just wanted to give a shout out to the Dwarven Forge guys and Doug from Fundafull for helping me swap out the Cavern Paint Pack for some individual colors I needed instead. Great customer service, Jeff & Stefan!

I used ghetto craft store paints for the Dungeon tiles because I missed the ordering window for Pokorny paints. Worked OK, but I'm excited to see how much better the "real deal" fares.
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#66477
Re:Are we expecting a series of new painting videos? 3 Months ago  
I do find myself wondering why people buy unpainted and their only goal seems to be matching the factory paint job. After buying the paint and putting in the time, is it really cheaper.

My tiles will mostly look similar, but none will look totally the smae. Not even gonna try.

Then again looking at how I painted my dungeon pieces (I finally finished them all) my caverns might look off, like an "Evil Basement" or the like :)
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#66480
Re:Are we expecting a series of new painting videos? 3 Months ago  
I think there is a combination of timing and perception at work.

The unpainted sets are cheaper. The immediate cash outlay is less. Paint can be purchased later, when the customer has more money to buy paint. The costs are spread over time, and thus are more manageable. Think of it as paying for the final painted product on an installment plan -- it might be more expensive in the long run, but the financial impact is lower at any particular moment of expenditure.

Many people don't consider the value of their time when they calculate the actual total cost of painting their own pieces. Some think of it as literally "free" time, some enjoy the process enough to call it even, some add the time to the perceived value of the finished pieces, some are offsetting the cash expenditure by spending time instead of money, and so on.



I'm waiting to see how customer-painted pieces will be handled in resale. Is there a way (or a reason) to distinguish between GameTiles that were prepainted at the factory and GameTiles that were bought unpainted and then painted by the customer to match the factory paint job?
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#66483
Re:Are we expecting a series of new painting videos? 3 Months ago  
I actually find painting to be relaxing and rewarding. I own 500+ metal miniatures that I have hand-painted, and I'm proud of everyone of them. I wouldn't have the same pride over my dungeon tiles if I had purchased them factory painted.

From the first KS there was some painting schemes that I don't care for. On the game tiles I didn't like the red pillars (I painted them grey instead), and I've painted my demon doors with different colors. The chamber of sorrows had some unique pieces but I didn't want a red bloody room, so I painted them to match, I now have blue glossy watery pool in my dungeon :)

With that said painting does take time, on game tiles it averaged to about ~1 hour per set. The caverns should be a lot faster and easier since there is no Bricks! In addition I still have paints from the first KS, as long as I can carve out a couple hours over a weekend I shouldn't have any problem getting them all painted.

-edit-- Well it appears that I not only have a terrible memory, but I also talked myself into getting dungeon grey for all my water sets. My wife says I did it so that they would match my caves... In truth I think it was so I could afford 2 more addons!
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#66487
Re:Are we expecting a series of new painting videos? 3 Months ago  
tangleknot wrote:
I actually find painting to be relaxing and rewarding. I own 500+ metal miniatures that I have hand-painted, and I'm proud of everyone of them. I wouldn't have the same pride over my dungeon tiles if I had purchased them factory painted.

From the first KS there was some painting schemes that I don't care for. On the game tiles I didn't like the red pillars (I painted them grey instead), and I've painted my demon doors with different colors. The chamber of sorrows had some unique pieces but I didn't want a red bloody room, so I painted them to match, I now have blue glossy watery pool in my dungeon :)


This! And in addition to this, I bought unpainted tiles with painted dungeon accessories (wasn't really interested in painting beds) and personally I think my paint job looks a whole lot better than the factory paint job. My doors look better, my walls look better.. etc. etc.

Painting isn't for everyone, but for me it's something I enjoy, it's less expensive, and if the result looks better too, then that's the way to go (for me).
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#66488
Re:Are we expecting a series of new painting videos? 3 Months ago  
I find the painting mostly relaxing. Okay, it would be a lie to say I completely enjoyed the contrast brick painting step but the rest was fun. I break out a set to do across a couple of evenings while watching movies or terrible Netflix, and generally enjoy it.

When you're looking at a budget busting purchase like a Dwarven Forge Kickstarter (anyone here want to pretend they stayed within their budget on this one?) there's the desire to get more more MORE. Unpainted gets you more stuff.

Still I did consider going painted this time, but two things stopped me: Wanting to experiment with alternate paint schemes, and the perceived inconsistency of the factory paint jobs. I've seen some which look fantastic and some which look meh, with too big a difference to write off as different lighting or bad photography skills. Painting my own, I have only myself to blame if they come out wonky. =P
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#66495
Re:Are we expecting a series of new painting videos? 3 Months ago  
In response to jackattack's question about resale, I would feel compelled to state accurately whether or not the sets I was selling were factory paint or otherwise were I to sell them. I would do the same when trading them as well. For me personally though, the paint job makes no difference to the value. It is possible for me to strip it without damaging the product if I so wish, or to paint over it with a different one even.
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