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#60335
Creating layer topography. 6 Months, 1 Week ago  
Out of curiosity, what are you chaps using to create layers under your dungeon tiles? I recently purchased a few packs of 12"x12" cork tiles and they seem to be turning out better than I had anticipated.

I wanted them to:
1. Be the correct height to match the tile pieces (stairs, floor levels, etc)
2. Light weight and sturdy to allow easy movement and transportation.
3. Darker in color, resembling soil.
4. Most importantly, soft enough to not scratch my wood table. :)

These seemed to be perfect. It fits all of the above and happens to be on sale this week at JoAnn's fabric store (roughly, 12.99 a pack, 4 thin sheets in a pack). 4 packs seem to be more than enough for me. I can stack each sheet atop of one another to create the height that I'm looking for with each encounter. I'm very pleased with mine, but am curious as to what you guys came up with. Please excuse the blurry photos and lack of color correction... I'm tired and making dinner.
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#60336
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months, 1 Week ago  
Here are the photos:








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#60342
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months, 1 Week ago  
I have used cork and form board for small steps up. the cork has the advantage of it being less slippery, but the foam board is easier to cut cleanly.

I have seen folks also use a pink insoluation form board like this(www.pakuya.com/products/20mm-Xps-Board.html)but I have not found it at my local hardware store
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#60347
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months, 1 Week ago  
I sometimes use scraps of pine boards, especially for smaller areas. 1" nominal pine is actually 3/4" thick, or about as thick as two Game Tiles floor pieces which are about 3/8" each. It's strong, pretty light, and can be cut to size as needed (if you have a suitable saw). It also takes paint well if you want to do something permanent.

I'm a carpenter (among other things) so I always have some spare lumber scraps lying around... But you can pick up say an 8' 1x10 or 1x12 pretty inexpensively at the local lumber co. My local place would happily cut pieces to length for you too, so it's worth asking. Make sure you get a piece that's not cupped or twisted.
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#60377
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months, 1 Week ago  
Funny you should start this thread... I planned to do a post a while ago and never got around to it.



When i saw the pedestal stretch goal the first thing i thought was "those would make awesome stepping stones" In order to use them as such you have to raise the surrounding land up. Waiting for the KS to arrive my biggest curiosity was what the exact dimensions were so that i could make risers. Turns out to be super easy as DF follows a very nice 1/2" + 1 1/2" = 2" standard. Floors are 1/2" thick, walls come up 1 1/2"

So all it takes is a scrap of 1/2" plywood and you can raise the floor to be level with the pedestal. Here a clever adventurer dragged a bench out of the inn to use as a makeshift bridge:



1 1/2 is the thickness of a 2x4 so you can rest a wall tile on top of a 2x4 for what i call a "3/4" rise or put plywood on top for the full rise level up:





Here is a real quick set up with risers. I made a bunch of scraps of 1/2" plywood in 2x2, 4x4, 4x6 etc and some with diagonally chopped corners. First i lay out my shoreline.



Then i play puzzle pieces (on top) with my scraps until i can support it



Removing everything i lay the wood down, toss fabric over it (a green t shirt was what i used in a pinch to be a lake of acid) and then set the tiles back down on top.



Viola a shoreline and acid lake, add a few pedestals and you are ready to watch players roll jump checks... somebody as got to roll bad eventually and then the fun really starts ;)



The wood is heavy and takes up a bunch of space, but i just tossed all the parts in a tub in the garage to grab when i need it. This is part of a larger scenario that i want to do, but life got busy so i haven't had a chance to build/photograph it.
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#60383
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months, 1 Week ago  
Looks good! Posting pictures for clarification always when discussing these things. I like the plank of wood idea, but worry about scratching the surfaces of people's tables. Have you thought about covering the bottom side of them with felt?
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#60396
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months, 1 Week ago  
Great call with the cork board. It makes plausible terrain without having to do anything to it.
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#60456
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months ago  
Problem is if you have an entire level on the upper floor the wood only holds a few tiles. If you need much more then you're in trouble.
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#60459
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months ago  
The nice thing about the wood is it is easy (and cheap) to make as big as you want - i just made a bunch of small pieces out of scrap so i could jerry rig smaller irregular shorelines

i am actually very intrigued by the cork idea - i like the soft/light/no slip aspect of it - i may have to try it - it also has the advantage of looking good without being covered up
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#60465
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months ago  
As much as I would love to have the presence of mind to go after something permanent like styrofoam or cork, my DMing style is a bit more frantic and poorly-planned. Thus, whenever I've needed a second (or when I get ambitious, third) floor, the quick-and-dirty method is my go-to every time: grab a wall tile. Run upstairs to the pantry. Start comparing the height of the tile to the side dimensions (depth, specifically) of various boxes, such as brownie mix, cornflake crumbs, or taco shells. When I find one that lines up, I run downstairs, lay it on the table, start building the room on top of it, and ask my players to ignore the Betty Crocker logo.

Its not elegant, but the results are more than passable.
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#60468
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months ago  
And afterwards, delicious snacks!
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#60473
Re:Creating layer topography. 6 Months ago  
jackattack wrote:
And afterwards, delicious snacks!


"Ok, the Froot Loops Box fits perfectly, guys. But it's already open. Everyone fill up a bowl and starting eating so we can use this without spilling the cereal."
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