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#59202
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jackattack wrote:
The problem with narrow passages is that no matter what you do, you end up with odd half-tiles somewhere. If you don't have them in the passage, you get them in the intersections. The original solution was to put vaguely triangular spaces in the MasterMaze Narrow Passages intersections.

jchunick, will a narrow freestanding wall fit across the narrow passage mockup, to create a dead end?

Yes, but it doesn't look good. It's better to use the wall and floor for the centre piece.

Here are two pics so you can see both configurations. I think it goes without saying which is better.

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#59205
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I'd go as far as saying no, it doesn't fit because it's too narrow. But as you point out, turning a straight wall around to block the narrow passage works great.

Okay, so if DF were to go minimalist on Dwarvenite narrow passages, they could just commission a bunch of straight wall pieces and attach freestanding walls at the factory.
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#59206
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jackattack wrote:
I'd go as far as saying no, it doesn't fit because it's too narrow. But as you point out, turning a straight wall around to block the narrow passage works great.

Okay, so if DF were to go minimalist on Dwarvenite narrow passages, they could just commission a bunch of straight wall pieces and attach freestanding walls at the factory.

Effectively, they have. We have all the pieces... just not in the proportions we need. Out of a 5x set I only have 10 free standing walls and 10 1/2 walls (which, I think, are too small). They should be a bit wider. All I would want is to fill in the corners with, say, a wooden post (or stone, but I think a wooden post would have more uses). I have no problems using some sort of tack putty to temporarily affix the free standing walls and even the posts.
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Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
The more I think about this, the more I side that a narrow passage set is not needed. Reason- the 2x2 format is crucial, and i like it alot. the only ways to create narrow passages in the 2x2 format leave a slightly wider that 1 inch passage. This can already be achieved with the current set. I think id rather DF just focus this energy on more sets. I know they have caves coming up and lots of people want sewers and medieval buildings ( im calling Inns and Taverns). I personally would eventually like a dwarvinite catacombs set. I say let them focus on that stuff rather than spend energy fixing something that can't be fixed much better than it is. I know you guys have you opinions and that's what this thread is for, I just wanted to share mine on the same issue
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#59216
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Which add-on set do I buy to get more freestanding walls?

A new add-on set featuring some narrow passage pieces and a few corners, straight walls, and floors to serve as intersections could be put together with little development and no start-up costs for new molds. It expands the GameTiles dungeon line and allows those of us who want narrow passages to get them without tying up all of our freestanding walls.

I think narrow passages (however DF ends up doing them) would make a good add-on for the next kickstarter.
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#59218
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I still like the idea of the 1.5" piece with full floor squares and one wall - one is a narrow passage, two opposite is a corridor. Stefan has weighed in on this and has some strongly held opinions on why this should not be done (creating confusion... i think he should give us credit for being smart, but i don't have to field the customer service phone calls from people...).

Remember what George Carlin said. "Think about just how dumb the average person is. Now, by definition, half of everyone is stupider than that!"

For my group it won't matter. We ran our first 3d adventure last week. I told the group the three options: 1/2=full, 1/2=squeeze or 1/2=nonexistant. I had been planning to treat the 1/2 spaces as full. In the end while treating them as full worked, we all decided we would like the extra space to see and get our fat fingers onto the minis so in the future I will design and we will play as if those squares don't exist. This means bigger layouts... guess i'll need more game tiles... DARN!!! ;)
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#59219
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Smogma wrote:



I would be happy if we could get the middle one on the right and the top one on the right with square columns and wall inserts that would make it turn into any of the rest. And a insert with a door in it that could be used on both.
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#59220
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
kodiakbear wrote:


I would be happy if we could get the middle one on the right and the top one on the right with square columns and wall inserts that would make it turn into any of the rest. And a insert with a door in it that could be used on both.


I don't think there really is any need for wall inserts. Maybe a door if you really want, but these are the only two pieces necessary:



jchunick has already proven 4-way and 3-way T-sections can be made (and look pretty good) with floor pieces and straight walls.


Come on Stefan. You really only need two pieces to make this happen. (excluding odd-ball stuff like curving/snaking corridors)
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#59226
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Smogma wrote:
[quotejchunick has already proven 4-way and 3-way T-sections can be made (and look pretty good) with floor pieces and straight walls.
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jchunick did a good job of coming up with a work around.

But in more complex dungeon lay outs we really need the versatility that a 4-way with wall/door inserts can give us IMO.
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#59227
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
???

Is this thing on?
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#59284
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
jackattack good question.


I had not noticed before that there is no way to order more free-standing walls or narrow free-standing walls.



I wonder if Stefan and Jeff are planning something?
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#59651
Re:Can a narrow passage be done in Dwarvenite? 8 Months, 1 Week ago  
Just as an aside, it should be noted that just connecting alternating sides of diagonal wall pieces, you can make a 1-square wide passageway. It, uh, has to be a diagonal passageway, so calling its applications limited from an aesthetic standpoint is valid. That said, though, its a solid little choke point in an architectural pinch.
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