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#50470
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
I really like the liquid "insert" idea as well. Green slime, lava, tar, water, etc would all be awesome!

I've really wanted to see cavern craters with inserts like these. Bubbling lava, green slime, bubbling tar, or a pool of water could be placed in the crater.
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12x cavern ks sets
6x lava river ks set
5x lava cavern ks sets
1x wicked cavern ks set
1x stalagmite cavern set
12x hellscape #1sets
10x hellscape #2sets
2x resin ice cavern sets
6x gametile ice cavern sets
4x ruins sets

Hoping for more lava and ice tiles in the future!
 
#50473
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
Sweet idea!

Just need to keep the gaps to a minimum....
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#50476
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
kevinrau wrote:
If the water areas were still depressed, but painted blue it would be fine. It would then be the buyer's option to fill with something clear (or get more advanced and put in tiny fish to then cover with a clear substance).

For me, the primary key to the caverns is the rough terrain and completely different feel than in the dungeon setting.
I love the idea of a depressed area! I already have some tiny fish!
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#50502
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
Although river and lake tiles with depressions and inserts (D/I) might be more aesthetically pleasing, I believe that edge tiles (sculpted similarly to the Chasms Set, but with a sloped edge) would be more practical. 

Here are what I believe to be advantages of edges over D/I:


D/I: Rivers are the same width every single time.

Edge: Rivers can be any width, even different widths along the same river.


D/I: River sets connect to shoreline sets connect to open tile sets. Inserts are additional bits invoking additional cost.

Edge: One set for rivers and shorelines, no inserts or open tiles needed.


D/I: Each prepainted set is dedicated to a single river/lake content (water, lava, slime, tar, acid, etc.).

Edge: Prepainted tiles would only be painted for stone, which could still be washed or dry brushed to match river/lake content. A sheet of printed paper, a $5 piece of fabric, a dry erase mat, or a flat panel display can be placed under edge tiles to simulate any river/lake content, including chasms.


D/I: No stacking.

Edge: Could be sculpted to match cavern walls for improved stacking to make multi-level caverns.


If the object is to make 3D terrain more cost effective to DF and the consumer, then practicality is going to have to be a (the?) major factor in development and design. Edge tiles may prevent potential inventory, cost, and customer budget issues before they start.
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#51050
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
I would also say the chasm solution is the best, at least from where I'm sitting. I'd almost rather have 12x12 sheets of "river/lake" or lava or whatever that I place under my tiles, then add the chasm edges along the border of the lake to make it a structure.
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#51685
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
I love the inserts idea, but JackAttack does make some very good points about the increased utility of the Chasms style.

How about the best of both worlds, similar to personwholives' idea? Create the Chasm-edge style pieces, but also offer packs of very thin flat 4x4 squares (plasticard?) with a textured grid on both sides, for those users who don't want to use fabric or paper and want to spend money for a quality appearance. Each side can be painted as a different material. Users could then position the cavern floor edges on top to make narrow or wide rivers, etc.

A minor drawback would be the slight (1/16"?)rise in floor level, but cavern floors are notoriously uneven anyway. :)
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#51688
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 7 Months ago  
As an insert material what about the transparent bones? It's flexable like Dwarvenite and they can do green and red as shown. Blue should also be available. Might be able to get reaper to be an outsourse of inserts.
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#52774
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 6 Months ago  
The pool piece in Wizkids' Mage Knight Dungeons "Artifacts Set 2" might be worth looking at regarding cavern/water tiles in plastic.

There's a decent picture of it here:

www.ioffer.com/i/wizkids-mage-knight-dungeons-artifacts-set-2-the-colle-532165924



A lesser picture here:

www.amazon.com/Mage-Knight-Dungeons-Artifacts-0905/dp/B00005TNHY/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt

It's about 2"x2". The water is flat, transparent blue plastic (with a few concentric ripples for a nice effect), and the underside of the transparent plastic is painted with a metallic silver paint. I suspect the entire piece is transparent, but you'd never guess it for the rock parts.

Hope it might be of help, because I'd love to buy some cavern Game Tiles with lakes/rivers!
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#52807
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 6 Months ago  
Jackattack makes an excellent point about the increased utility and the ability to easily make rivers/flows/etc of any width, but I still really like the idea of inserts. I wonder how difficult it would be to make something similar to the rounded and diagonal corner pieces? Essentially making the shoreline as jackattack suggests, but having a dwarvenite backing with a clear insert/topper that lines up to the shore pieces. You could also have pieces that are entirely a dwarvenite layer with insert/topper. If this were doable it could provide the best of both worlds.

I like the idea of the extra visual pizazz of the inserts. The point of 3D terrain in my mind is to bring a new level of "wow" or "bling" to your game. The extra versatility of being able to use the pieces to make cliff or chasm edges or even to do very wide river scenes without owning 20 sets of filler tiles is also cool. I'm sure the Forge Folk will find ways to push the boundaries as far as they can go for us fans.
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#53479
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 5 Months ago  
Count me in for a pile of Cavern sets in Dwarvenite. Honestly, I really like the idea of using the plastic since it is lighter and more durable, and I love the idea of being able to possibly paint my own caverns should inspiration strike.

On the topic at hand, I am solidly in the camp of having the pieces form the edge and leaving the 'river' up to the DM to provide. It has the maximum versatility factor going for it while keeping the necessary components list as short as possible to that DF can make them quickly and cheaply and keep the price down for the consumer. That way one set can be a lava river, and sludge river, or a crystal clear river depending on what the DM puts below, or it can use elevation tricks to create a high chasm and multi-level cave complexes.

In my humble opinion let's save the complicated stuff for the resin Cavern sets where detail is king, and keep the principles of KISS for the Dwarvenite Cavern ideas. Maximum versatility with minimum investment from DF and our parts will win the day for the 'gateway drug' of Game Tile cavern sets.
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#56134
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 2 Months ago  
I think it is possible. Caverns sets would be just great.
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#56354
Re:Possible to Do Caverns with Game Tile Material? 1 Year, 1 Month ago  
is it possible to make the water sections of 2 separate pieces? maybe you could make the clear water piece snap into the game tile. one might even slide pics under the clear piece from time to time to change the color of the water or to add sharks or something
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