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#16740
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
fiddy,

Sounded like me there for a minute; I ahd to go back and look who sent that post!
ONE DAY, I will get all my Griffon stuff painted and in-service.
One Day.

See ya!

Jim
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#16741
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
RF*;

You didn't notice that I had my tongue in my cheek, did you?
OF COURSE I want DF to do a round of accessories for Sci-Fi! You've already talked me around to that viewpoint.
What I was saying to Celtchief is that Grendel ALREADY HAS a space bar-type set; the advantage to DF doing one is that it would more closely conform to DF designs and setups, including decor, color scheme, and details - PLUS have the advantage of being prepainted!
To toss your own quote back at you, take a chill pill; we're on the same team here, just different flanks!
So, if DF does this kind of furniture set, will we be double-spaced? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just a little keyboard humor, there.

See ya!

Jim

I am chilling, a bit, here.
Not enjoying my current duty is probably why I am a little uptight.
Oh, if only, no post card.
Oh well, such is life.

I noticed the tongue in-cheek, but I was also wondering if you were wandering into "strange paths" Jim from the tone.
Sci-Fi just has a long grade to climb to get where it needs to be; Fantasy took seven years to get where it was when Sci-Fi came out, and I am hoping that Sci-Fi will be a good bit faster since it will not have to repeat any of Fantasy's mistakes.
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SF: Starter(3), Passage(2), Alpha(7), Beta(2) someday soon;
Cavern: Cavern, Cavernous Passages, many individual pieces, Cavernous River & Wall and Cavernous Lake someday soon;
Fantasy: Room & Passages, Room, Octagonal Room, Wicked Additions I&II, Adv. Builder, Diagonal Walls Set, Dungeon Accessories, Medieval Furniture, many individual pieces.
 
#16742
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
RF*;

I think our primary problem here is that, with the exception of you, me, GS, Mike the IO, and two or three others, we don't get a lot of LOUD, POSITIVE feedback posted here in favor of Sci-Fi MM. As a result, Jeff and Stefan haven't gotten all that much drive to expand the Sci-Fi line.

We need SOMETHING, somehow, to get the Sci-Fi Gaming community to open up and post POSITIVE commentary here on the forum, so Jeff and Stefan can see that Sci-Fi expansion won't be a budget-breaker. As you and I both have commented in the past (to the point of driving "some" DF'ers nuts!), DF can't operate for the benefit of just a few of us; no matter how RABID we may be as DF fans and users, we can't support the line by ourselves. I'd be curious to hear from Jeff just how well the Sci-Fi line IS doing, just as a means to gauge whether we need to start dragging customers in bodily, maintain the cheering section, or give up and let Stefan get back to the serious business of developing DoE and MBS. We know that, barring major disasters, MM Fantasy and Caverns are survivors, because of the huge installed base. Sci-Fi is probably the only line teetering in the balance right now.

How about it, Jeff? Are we wasting your time and ours, or should we continue beating the Sci-Fi Drums?
Let us know, okay?

Hang in there, RF*; Jeff's never lied to us before, at least, not knowingly. I don't think he's going to start now.
Rag on us, yes; rattle our chains, of course (especially ME, because I pick on him!); but he isn't going to point-blank lie to us. He'll either tell us up-front what's the story, or say nothing - and I'm NOT betting on nothing!

See ya!

Jim
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#16743
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
RF*;

I think our primary problem here is that, with the exception of you, me, GS, Mike the IO, and two or three others, we don't get a lot of LOUD, POSITIVE feedback posted here in favor of Sci-Fi MM. As a result, Jeff and Stefan haven't gotten all that much drive to expand the Sci-Fi line.

We need SOMETHING, somehow, to get the Sci-Fi Gaming community to open up and post POSITIVE commentary here on the forum, so Jeff and Stefan can see that Sci-Fi expansion won't be a budget-breaker. As you and I both have commented in the past (to the point of driving "some" DF'ers nuts!), DF can't operate for the benefit of just a few of us; no matter how RABID we may be as DF fans and users, we can't support the line by ourselves. I'd be curious to hear from Jeff just how well the Sci-Fi line IS doing, just as a means to gauge whether we need to start dragging customers in bodily, maintain the cheering section, or give up and let Stefan get back to the serious business of developing DoE and MBS. We know that, barring major disasters, MM Fantasy and Caverns are survivors, because of the huge installed base. Sci-Fi is probably the only line teetering in the balance right now.

How about it, Jeff? Are we wasting your time and ours, or should we continue beating the Sci-Fi Drums?
Let us know, okay?

Hang in there, RF*; Jeff's never lied to us before, at least, not knowingly. I don't think he's going to start now.
Rag on us, yes; rattle our chains, of course (especially ME, because I pick on him!); but he isn't going to point-blank lie to us. He'll either tell us up-front what's the story, or say nothing - and I'm NOT betting on nothing!

See ya!

Jim

Hello everyone. I just registered today so I can comment on this topic.

Count me as someone very interested in buying more Sci-Fi line items. I just started collecting last year because I saw some pictures someone posted on the WOTC Star Wars minis boards and I just had to try them out. Currently I have one of each of the Sci Fi line and also one each of the cavern line (except for the lake set).

These sets are fantastic and well worth the price in my opinion. That being said I do feel the Sci Fi line needs a big pump up. Accessories/sci-fi type furniture is a big deficit in my opinion. I'm not a painter. I would happily buy pre-painted DF items for sci-fi. The other deficit in my opinion is more floor and wall pieces. I bought these sets initially to make 3D maps for Star Wars minis, but I've found that it's hard to do -- too many corridors, not enough floor and wall. I would also appreciate accesories to use as "cover" to make battles more interesting(crates, tanks, consoles and the like).

My last request: movable walls would be much appreciated. That is one of the most wonderful parts of the CRW set: you can move the walls around! It makes the variety in layout much greater and more useful. I find they make the regular cavern set much more varied and would very much appreciate something similar for the Sci-Fi line.

By the way, this is a great forum. You folks have interesting things to say, argue without flaming, and mostly know how to spell. Keep up the great work DF!
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#16744
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
I don't know anything about the 'trends' in roleplaying in the States - but here in the UK, when you go to wargaming shows and speak to other groups of fellow roleplayers, fantasy seems to be the most popular genre to play by at least a factor of 3. (probably followed by the White Wolf horror style genre) Star Wars etc hardly ever seems to make an appearance? Is this the reason why sales and promotion of the sci fi stuff has not had the same attention as DFs fantasy line? I love the scifi stuff but would not buy any as noone in our group is willing to Gamesmaster sci-fi RPSs?

I am not 'calling' sci fi roleplaying, it's just that everyone I know seems to want to play fantasy/horror/modern.
Personally, I love the CyberPunk genre - now if DF would make a 'half way house' set between near future and
high (starwars style) sci-fi - I would definitely buy that!

Just my opinion anyway.

Dave :)
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#16745
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
Your posting makes sense Dave except you seem to be isolating the use of Master Maze to only role-playing games.
What about wargaming?
Do not a lot of folks play GW's 40K science fiction wargame in the UK?
There are 40K rules that allow one to play inside structures.
Additionally, is not the game Space Hulk a game that could well use the Sci-Fi Master Maze system?
Right there are two very popular UK games that can deploy the Sci-Fi Master Maze system in their use.

One also has to include the wargame Star Grunt II from GZG to the list of Sci-Fi wargames that can easily use the the Sci-Fi Master Maze system.
Additionally, another wargame, Dark Passage, from another UK company, I have played at gaming shoppes in Edinburgh and Cardiff which can use the Sci-Fi Master Maze system.
There were also two other interesting games I played demos of on my last UK visit that could be done within the Sci-Fi Master Maze system; I cannot remember the name of either one right this second, but one was by a company called i-Kore and the other was by another British firm which escapes me currently.

Anyway, there are plenty of game systems in the UK that you can play using the Sci-Fi Master Maze system let alone any games from the U.S.A. or elsewhere.
I think there is great potential for the Sci-Fi Master Maze system out there; it will just take the basic completion of the sytem to a truly viable assortment of pieces for the sales to really pick up.
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#16746
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
I love the scifi stuff but would not buy any as noone in our group is willing to Gamesmaster sci-fi RPSs?

I am not 'calling' sci fi roleplaying, it's just that everyone I know seems to want to play fantasy/horror/modern.
Personally, I love the CyberPunk genre - now if DF would make a 'half way house' set between near future and
high (starwars style) sci-fi - I would definitely buy that!

Just my opinion anyway.

Dave :)

Dave -

Anyone doesn't like you voicing your opinion, let ALL of us know - we'll speak to them!

Anyway, two things:

1.) Why not GM a sci-fi RPG yourself? There is DragonStar D20, from Fantasy Flight Games; GURPS has multiple sci-fi settings; Amarillo Design Bureau has recently published D6, D20, and (I think) D12 Prime Directive, which is set in the Star Fleet Universe; and of course, you can also use sci-fi for Modern cyberpunk stuff.

2.) Role-playing goes way beyond fantasy/horror/modern/sci-fi; ANY genre can be roleplayed, if you're willing to do the work involved in writing the game. Even Battletech has an RPG - Mechwarrior.

I apologize if it sounds as if I'm preaching, but I just hate to see what appears to be a fan who doesn't get to play what he wants, because no one wants to do any of the work to help him.

What was the line in Field of Dreams? If you build it, they will come?

See ya!

Jim
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#16747
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What was the line in Field of Dreams? If you build it, they will come?

See ya!

Jim

Uh, Jim, hmmm, Dave is in the UK plus Jim he may not be old enough or interested in a certain sport enough to have even watched that movie.
I know you and I among thousands of others think 'Field of Dreams' is a classic, but Jim, there are people out there who think it is a waste of film and have not bothered to even see it.
You may want/need to explain the reference for those here who have missed that film Jim.
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#16748
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
I'm a spritely 35 and yes, Field of Dreams is a great movie despite the fact I have never played baseball in my life (I'm a Martial Arts fan). Rabidfox, yes, I agree that Sci-Fi could be used for wargaming too - I guess WH40K/Laserburn (now that's showing my age) or SpaceHulk would be excellent on DF sci-fi terrain.

I have never GM'd Sci-Fi before (I will be GMing Conan next, when it's my turn) but I will have a trawl through the Sci-Fi RPGs to see if anything takes my fancy for 'next time.'

Cheers - Dave
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#16749
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Actually, RF*, I never saw FoD, think baseball is as waste of space and time AND athletes (and athletic supporters, never mind!), and ain't all that fond of football (either kind), hockey, or basketball. NASCAR and drag racing are a waste of gasoline, and IRL/CART don't exactly turn me on either.
Now, F1 and SCCA stuff. . . OKAY! But I'm not all that current there, either.
Okay, I admit it; I'm a geek who still shoots, occasionally. But only on the range.

And Dave; I truly hope you DO find a sci-fi RPG you can like, because once you start crawling along those accessways, hoping you can find the hatch cover before the acidbleeders can catch up to you, you'll never go back to simple goblins and orcs. Unless you just want a relatively easy run.
Hey, at least on a planet, there SHOULD be a breathable atmosphere! Ever try breathing vacuum? It's pretty thin stuff; after a while, your skin gets kinda tight, too. Not to mention, it gets COLD! Or HOT!

Whatever you play, have fun! That's the whole purpose of the hobby, right?

See ya, guys!

Jim
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#16750
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
Actually, RF*, I never saw FoD, think baseball is as waste of space and time AND athletes (and athletic supporters, never mind!), and ain't all that fond of football (either kind), hockey, or basketball. NASCAR and drag racing are a waste of gasoline, and IRL/CART don't exactly turn me on either.
Now, F1 and SCCA stuff. . . OKAY! But I'm not all that current there, either.
Okay, I admit it; I'm a geek who still shoots, occasionally. But only on the range.

...

See ya, guys!

Jim

So you just appreciate the one quote from FoD that you have heard around then Jim?
I am asking because there was no 'smilies' attached to your posting to indicate humor of any variety.

So you are an anti-sports vacuum, eh Jim?
So what?
The world needs all kinds, and you fit that space.
Some people would be shocked to understand that there is more to life than sports.

As far as targeting, what do you like downrange using what implement of choice?
Do you ony use firearms or do you use any of the more primitive force projectors?
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Cavern: Cavern, Cavernous Passages, many individual pieces, Cavernous River & Wall and Cavernous Lake someday soon;
Fantasy: Room & Passages, Room, Octagonal Room, Wicked Additions I&II, Adv. Builder, Diagonal Walls Set, Dungeon Accessories, Medieval Furniture, many individual pieces.
 
#16751
Year of Sci-Fi 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
I'm a spritely 35 and yes, Field of Dreams is a great movie despite the fact I have never played baseball in my life (I'm a Martial Arts fan). Rabidfox, yes, I agree that Sci-Fi could be used for wargaming too - I guess WH40K/Laserburn (now that's showing my age) or SpaceHulk would be excellent on DF sci-fi terrain.

I have never GM'd Sci-Fi before (I will be GMing Conan next, when it's my turn) but I will have a trawl through the Sci-Fi RPGs to see if anything takes my fancy for 'next time.'

Cheers - Dave

One of our more middle-aged folks here, eh Dave?
Laserburn does not quite place you in with the old fogies Dave; I have ran into a few teenagers here Stateside who play it.
It was never one of my loves - sorry.

Dave, I have cousins in Wales and Scotland who refuse to "waste their time" watching an American baseball film.
That is why I questioned whether you would have seen it or not.
Then again, a good number of my cousins can go on about cricket until I am bored to tears.
I have played it several times and just cannot catch the thrill of it.
I do respect good players of it though.

I, like Jim, hope you do have an opportunity to have a great experience with an Sci-Fi game of your choice.
Sounds like you mostly roleplay so your choices may be limited when it comes to Sci-Fi.
Personally, I only wargame and only use rpg books to flavor the background of the battles and campaigns.
That's just me.

Anyway, have a blast Dave!
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