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#13106
GW SF products that look kinda neat, actually 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Picked up a White Dwarf today for the first time in ages. Seems like those plastic Pegasus Hobbies et al building kits struck a nerve at GW HQ -- they are, ahem, borrowing the idea in the near future. The stuff they are producing looks pretty a nice, some of it kitbashes from older GW products, but the standard kit ($25) makes a nice building, and a whole city package (for a whopping $175) gives you a lot to work with.

Check it out here, amid other "Coming Soon" stuff:
store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=305560&orignav=305560&GameNav=305560

The WD has some slightly better pics -- I may pick up one $25 set, they do look kinda neat....

Just a heads-up for the SF crowd....

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#13107
GW SF products that look kinda neat, actually 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Yeah i saw some one talking about those over on WWG and TMP, but i think if i remember them they are too "ruined" for my tastes.
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#13108
GW SF products that look kinda neat, actually 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
I had the chance to take a look at the stuff at the GW store in Stockholm a couple of days ago, and the sets contain all sorts of neat parts. The two basic shapes seem to be a wall section, about 5 cm wide and 10 cm tall (or thereabouts), and a floor section, which is 5 x 5 cm. All wall sections are different, with doors, windows, without either, and so on. The floor sections are various lengths of 1 to 4 of the 5 cm squares. Some are partly ruined, some are complete. In addition, there are pipes, bits, stuff of all sorts. Very useful, and probably going to be lots of fun to play around with!
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#13109
GW SF products that look kinda neat, actually 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
I just looked at GW's WEB page and cannot find the intact buildings you spoke of willypold.
All I could find were incredibly over-priced ruins!

Did y'all actually catch the prices for these sets?
GW always had a "healthy" opinion of themselves, but these prices must really take the cake!
Three ruined buildings at $25 each, a boxed ruined sector for $90 and an alleged complete ruined city for $175.
I really miss the old days when you could get an intact building (e.g. firebase,bastion,etc.) for $25-35 from GW; now they expect gamers to buy "garbage/land fill material" for that price.
[i][u]UGH!!![/i][/u]

Years ago I never did get an adequate explanation why nearly every structure that GW produced and sold, for 40K especially, had to look like it had been under a week's worth of World War One-style continuous bombardment.
Moreover, some of these new GW 40K building sets make photos of Stalingrad '42-43 look like it was bombed by spitwads!

Plus folks, it looks like the "Necromunda" rules have been re-written again with their soon to be released "Cities of Death".
Or are the "Cities of Death" rules re-hashed and science-fictionized "Mordheim" rules?
Weren't the "Mordheim" rules just fantasized "Necromunda" rules anyway?
Anyway, "Cities of Death" will probably be no more easily managed than its predecessors were.

Additionally, it will provide GW the opportunity to OOP a ton of 40K minis and require folks to buy a whole new batch.
Lucky gamers!

I am so glad I stopped buying GW product clear back in '99.
Instead, I buy more Dwarven Forge product which is worth every penny I spend!
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#13110
GW SF products that look kinda neat, actually 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Well gang,

I'm going to go take a look at the GW page, but I pretty much have to agree with RF* on this one. GW NEVER saw a price hike they didn't like, unless it was one aimed AT THEM.
Also, they dearly LOVE the idea of 'planned obsolescence'!

Well, GW can KMA; I'M going to stand in line with the RabidFox* and wait for DF to bring out their next product, because NOTHING of theirs is obsolete!

See ya! (In Indy?)

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#13111
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I was actually under the impression that these are not "ruins" -- they are sprues with enough elements to make complete structures, or ruins, depending on your choice.

GW's prices don't actually strike me as that unreasonable in many cases. The LOTR line, for example, is about to get a box of 24 wood elves for $25. I just painted a set of 16 dryads that I paid $30 for (though, to be fair, GW officially asks for $35). When buying "swarms" of things, plastic regiment boxes are cheaper than Reaper, which typically asks $4-5 for a figure nowadays.

I'm not denying that GW can get obscene -- $40-50 models that Reaper typically charges $20 for the equivalent.

But these $25 buildings seem like they could be versatile enough, attractive enough, to be worth the price. Sounds like you object to the aesthetic as much as the cost, RF, which is fine -- but I happen to like it. As for the ruins -- if it turns out these don't include enough solid walls to make a full building, I'll lose my enthusiasm.

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#13112
GW SF products that look kinda neat, actually 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
I was actually under the impression that these are not "ruins" -- they are sprues with enough elements to make complete structures, or ruins, depending on your choice.

GW's prices don't actually strike me as that unreasonable in many cases. The LOTR line, for example, is about to get a box of 24 wood elves for $25. I just painted a set of 16 dryads that I paid $30 for (though, to be fair, GW officially asks for $35). When buying "swarms" of things, plastic regiment boxes are cheaper than Reaper, which typically asks $4-5 for a figure nowadays.

I'm not denying that GW can get obscene -- $40-50 models that Reaper typically charges $20 for the equivalent.

But these $25 buildings seem like they could be versatile enough, attractive enough, to be worth the price. Sounds like you object to the aesthetic as much as the cost, RF, which is fine -- but I happen to like it. As for the ruins -- if it turns out these don't include enough solid walls to make a full building, I'll lose my enthusiasm.

L

L, all of the pics I saw on GW's WEB page indicated only ruins which would follow their normal MO.
There was nothing there to indicate whatsoever that any of these buildings were undamaged.

Did you see something I did not?
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#13113
GW SF products that look kinda neat, actually 8 Years, 5 Months ago  
There was nothing there to indicate whatsoever that any of these buildings were undamaged.

Did you see something I did not?

Well, the spread in WD may be more extensive than what is on the website. They showed various ways to assemble the elements, and some of the buildings seemed near-complete -- and I imagine one could always replace a ruined section with a completed one to make them fully whole.

It's a far cry from what the Pegasus Hobbies set gives you - that, too, is about $20, but it provides enough for two large buildings. At the same time, there is only one style of wall in that set, while these sets seem to offer greater variety.

I suppose I may reserve judgment until I see the actual product. I'm still crossing my fingers, since I like the style -- but being GW, well. . . . nuff said.

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#13114
GW SF products that look kinda neat, actually 8 Years, 5 Months ago  
Whatever... The pictures are one thing. Actually handling the _product_ is another...

What I described is the actual product, as the GW store in Stockholm had just received an advance copy, a huge box of it, and were looking at what to do with it. It's a modular concept, very much like some of the stuff that has been around in model railroading circles for ages.

What you get are double-sided wall sections and double-sided floor/roof sections, all in a system with fixed proportions. Most of the wall sections are whole and complete, some are battledamaged. The floor/roof sections exist in both complete and heavily damaged varieties.

What you do is you glue the pieces together in any way you want. That's the really good part of the system. Me? I'm not going to build a city out of that stuff, but a huge modular complex for Space Hulk and similar games. It isn't directly compatible with DF, but there are possibilities.

This is good stuff, useful, versatile, and with tons of unmistakable W40K feeling. I'm already thinking of ways to combine this with my DF, using HA pieces to make the transition.
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#13115
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Wow, thanks for the intel! That sounds like my best-case-scenario hopes for this. I really do dig the designs, and I love the modularity (DF has spoiled me). I am not sure how well it will blend with DF SF elements, but outdoor "cityfight" setups are attractive, too, so. . .

Looking forward to this...

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#13116
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We have a GW store about 3 miles from the house, and my friend wh ogot me started in gaming again practically LIVES at the US GW HQ, so I may have to take a look at this stuff. If you guys are right, it might actually change my way of thinking about GW - incredible as that sounds!

See ya!

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#13117
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Reserving final judgement until more visual intel.

The largest factor concerning it is simply one - it is made by GW.
That by itself is 98% why NOT to buy it.
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