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#56949
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
jackattack wrote:
When DF decides to make Serpent Temple sets (calm down, it's just a hypothetical example)

Sad thing is before I even got to the(calm down, it's just a hypothetical example), I had it full of Aztec style art/language.
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#56953
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
As far as filling the remainder of a container, I don't see any way that would violate any obligations or terms. So if there is remaining space I see no reason that could not be filled with resin if the timing were right.

I think it may also be possible to offer an existing resin pack as an add-on if they chose with the caveat that insufficient orders would mean either apportioning that money elsewhere or getting a refund of the resin purchase part. Reaper has done the same thing with their add-on packs saying that insufficient orders of a given add-on would mean it gets canceled. It seems to be pretty widely accepted, only a very tiny handful cried foul about it and were quickly shouted down by an avalanche of support.

I think that we have given DF a number of good ideas, at least some of which are probably feasible for improving and/or continuing resin ordering. Hopefully they can arrive at a solution that works well and makes most of the fans happy...
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#56992
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
I think what people here are missing is that the two product lines are made by different manufacturers in different locations. It would probably be more expensive and logistically difficult to get two different companies in a foreign country to produce the different lines then store them until both places were complete, then either load the container at one location and then ship it to the next location to finish the loading or have one company ship their products to the other company and have them load it.
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#56993
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
It appears that I misunderstood the original post that I used to start this thread.

I am talking specifically about the possibility of kickstarters for MasterMaze resin sets, all of which are produced at the same factory.
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#57024
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
As in, once Dwarven Forge know they have "x" number of buyers (i.e. hit their target) they will ask for them to be made?

I guess the issue is: Does an order of 1000 boxws of set X fill a container, making it economical, shipment options wise?

The other issue might be the time lag?
To design, test mould, produce, test paint , paint and then ship to the states will take a looooong time, methinks.

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#57036
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
Well, Plan A was to simply crowdfund a restock of MasterMaze (resin) products. It is a relatively risk-free way to pick which items to order, gets the money up front, and takes up no continuing space in inventory since everything is sent out when it arrives.

The drawbacks are that KS terms of service don't allow a company to put up existing products, may not allow minimum funding goals for separate items, and I don't know what to do about stretch goals. Think of it as a very short-term pre-order system.


Plan B is to hold a kickstarter for a new MasterMaze product (maybe a new limited edition set, maybe an expansion for an existing line). DF has always developed new products well in advance of announcing them, so all of the designing and molding and testing would likely be done in any case. Again, DF would know how much to order at the end of the kickstarter, they'd have the money for the order up front, and there wouldn't be any residual inventory to worry about. Stretch goals could be additional pieces from the new set(s), or unique exclusive pieces (like blowgun lizardmen or monster nests), or both.


In either plan, it is very unlikely that the order would conveniently fill a "whole number" of shipping containers -- the remaining space in the last shipping container has to be filled, or that portion of the shipping cost is wasted. If DF makes sure they have enough funds to fill a whole container (without dipping into the crowdfund profits), they can order more resin products from the same factory to fill that remaining space. Which allows them to restock existing products in the same shipment without violating the terms of service at KS.

DF would know how much space would be available at the end of the kickstarter, and they could base their decisions on what to order on how much space they have -- if it's a lot of space they could order items that traditionally sell quickly, if it's a little space they could order items that traditionally don't sell as quickly (since they won't be committing a large percentage of their storage at the fulfillment center).

They wouldn't be spending all of the non-KS money, which helps keep them solvent. Since they are restocking existing items, there is no additional development to be done, so it shouldn't take any longer to fulfill the entire order than if they'd done a straight full-container purchase. And (in Plan B) there's a partial restock at the same time a kickstarter gets distributed.
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#57092
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
Yeah, that makes sense to me now.
Don't see why option B might not be a goer?

Catacombs II or Sewers could eb done this way?


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#57107
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
Plan A might work with a different crowd fund service, but I don't know which one.
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#57110
Re:MasterMaze (Resin) Kickstarters 6 Months ago  
jackattack wrote:


Plan B


What a great idea! Jeff and Stefan should take note!
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