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#39161
Some thoughts on the various caverns lines 4 Years ago  
I've now played around a bit with the various cavern sets (including the basic set, the chasm set, the river set, lake set, and lake expansion set, but not the passages set) and also the MBS sets. And, somewhat recently, the ROTA sets.

I have come to conclude that the cavern sets are what I'd recommend first to someone who wants to know which DF sets to pick up. The reason? Because while the other sets are all equally amazing in some respects, they require a little more experience and ingenuity, IMHO, to come up with really outstanding stuff. It's very easy, when using the other sets, to fall into the trap of assembling just a bunch of square rooms and passages until you've really gotten the hang of just how versatile DF is.

With the cavern sets, because so much "character" is involved in each piece, the rooms are essentially already "furnished." Every DF set is fantastically detailed, but with MBS and dungeon (and, to a lesser extent, DOE and ROTA) rooms will look empty without more -- unless you've gotten good at figuring out really dynamic ways to put things together.

But caverns never look empty. Plus, as you combine them you get all sorts of interesting views from each angle, funky little caverns and recesses and all sorts of things appear, automatically, as you combine pieces. It's essentially the most "user-friendly" DF set, and therefore, I think, a great place to start.
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#39162
Re:Some thoughts on the various caverns lines 4 Years ago  
I concur!

Caverns were what originally drew me into DF and are still my favorite environment. Would love to someday see a Cavern WA, but I agree with you that even without it, the caverns are pretty *furnished* looking already, especially considering all the neat rocks, stalagmites, mithril clusters and cool pieces from the Chasm set we have to spruce the layouts up with. Throw in a few DDM mushrooms and natural crustal or two and you have one really bang-up layout!
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#39685
Re:Some thoughts on the various caverns lines 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
Now that the cavern set is restocked I am considering including them in my next order. I am looking to get 2 sets, 3 max this time around. I want a MBS set for sure but after that the cavern look VERY appealing!

I am looking to build a dragon's lair type setting.

Most of the pictures I have browsed through have combined many sets so it is hard to judge how big a cavern I can build out of just one set.

How much playability/diversity could I get out of just 1 cavern set? Can I get away with just adding 2-3 floor pieces (which have also been restocked) or would it be better to simply order 2 cavern sets? Or a cavern and a river/walls set?

So many options!
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#39686
Re:Some thoughts on the various caverns lines 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
In my opinion, it's neither worth it buying just one MBS set nor just one cavern-type set. Both types are such that with 3 sets you can have a lot of more 'worth' out of the box.
For example, I have only 2 MBS and 1 MBS 2 and I thought it's not enough to build what I really wanted, so I ordered the same amount again.
I have to admit that I am an addict to DF, though. Still, I believe it'd be better for you to stick to one of those lines for now in order to have more versatility.

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#39687
Re:Some thoughts on the various caverns lines 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
Personally, I think you need 2 cavern sets. The issue is that there are some unusually shaped pieces in the cavern set which aren't very practical for building a single room. So, you'll have limited layouts with just one set. I've got 2 cavern sets, the chasms set, and the rivers and walls set.

Here's a layout with just 2 cavern sets:
www.dwarvenforge.com/forum?func=view&catid=3&id=37655#37658

Here's a layout with 2 cavern sets and the chasms set:
www.dwarvenforge.com/forum?func=view&catid=3&id=39154#39154
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#39689
Re:Some thoughts on the various caverns lines 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
I must concur. I'd get 2 MBS + 1 MBS2 if you really want to do taverns and stuff, or 2 Cavern and a Chasm
or perhaps 2 cavern and a River and Walls set. Maybe throw in a few extra floor tiles.

The problem with only one cavern set is you don't have enough walls cornwers or floors to REALLY make what
you want, especially a dragon's lair with (presumably) a larger open floor area. The great thing about the
River & Walls set is they have free standing straight and curved walls that you can place anywhere, which
really is handy.
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#39690
Re:Some thoughts on the various caverns lines 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
Nice pictures, I especially like the second setup with the vertical pieces, it really adds perspective. Wonder how stable it is if someone knocks the table or something but it really looks good.

That was pretty much what I wanted to know, how much would one set let me do and it looks like I need at least two to make it worthwhile.

That's pretty much the impression I got from my previous order as well. I had the Room and passage set but it wasn't until I added the Room set that I was able to get useful setups.
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#39692
Re:Some thoughts on the various caverns lines 3 Years, 10 Months ago  
If I were you I would get two cavern sets and one cavernous passages set. Between those three you can get a pretty good cave layout.
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