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#33688
Free-Standing Arches 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
The arch is very common in architecture, especially ancient architecture, due to its inherent strength. Arches, vaults, and domes allowed the construction of previously impossible structures. Vaults and domes do not lend themselves to DF, however, as they involve a ceilings. Arches, on the other hand, have been used twice in DF, although only as decorative motifs.

I think an arch whose design is more functional (in appearance) could see wide use in any line it was designed to match (Fantasy, DoE, or RotA, but I'm hoping for Fantasy). [Edit] Come to think of it, this might not work well with RotA due to the slight inward curve at the top of the walls.

I imagine two 1" round or square pedestals separated by 2", giving the arch a length of 4". They would be connected by a pointed arch with a clearance of about 2", for a height of about 2.5". (Or, it could be 6" long and 4" tall.)

Free-standing arches could be placed flat against walls as decorative or structural elements. They could be placed at a 90-degree angle to the walls of a very large chamber to provide places to hide or take cover, and might suggest a very tall ceiling. One could be placed in a 4" wall opening as an arch similar to the Demon Arches of Fantasy and DoE. They could be placed to span 4" rooms or halls, or doubled up across an 8" space. They could even be put in the middle of a room (in a square) to delineate an important space (perhaps around a Fantasy Floor pentagram, pool, or sarcophagus).

What do y'all think? Should the piece be larger? Is it going to be stable enough on two 1"x1" bases? Is having it taller than the standard walls a problem? Is it going to interfere with miniature placement more than it enhances our set-ups?
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#33689
Free-Standing Arches 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
jackattack, I think you've hit upon something that, until you brought it up, I didn't realize was missing and SORELY NEEDED in DF: the free-standing arch AS ROOF SIMULATOR!
Picture this as a design for the piece; a one-piece arch that stands on a 1" square pedestal at each end of the arch. The arch is two walls tall and spans 4" when placed atop two standard square pedestals from Master Maze sets. The peak of the arch is notched so that two arches can interlock to form a vault at 90 degree angles. Also available is a smaller arch that stands the same height but spans 2", and can be used to for an entrance to a vault
if desired, again if placed on the 1" pedestals.

Whatcha think?
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#33690
Free-Standing Arches 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
I like it, especially the idea of being able to connect arches to form an X shape. That might be a feature common to all of the arch pieces, or an option designed into only two pieces (per set).

However, I want the arches connected to their own pedestals for a couple-few reasons.

The first is that I think it will be sturdier and more stable -- the pedestal will probably be wider than the arch itself, and balancing the arches on unattached pedestals seems more likely to be subject to slipping and toppling when the table gets bumped.

The second is that it requires us to use our limited pedestals to support the arches, when they might be used elsewhere in the same set-up.

The third is that it leaves the pedestal base open to redesign -- and who knows what cool things Stefan might do with it?
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#33691
Free-Standing Arches 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Fantastic idea!
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#33692
Free-Standing Arches 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Sounds Great!!!

This idea gets a DOUBLE you ROCK the FREE World!!!

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#33693
Free-Standing Arches 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Great idea!
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#33694
Free-Standing Arches 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Jack Attack,

Sounds possible...how about a sketch to illustrate?
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#33695
Free-Standing Arches 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?pid=35082#p35082

Sketch added at above link (in Cool Photos).

There are sketches of two possible arches. Somebody better at spatial relations will have to figure out how to make two of them fit together at right angles for a vault.
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