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#31894
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
(OK, not a poll per se, since I don't see that option)

So -- this came up in another thread -- what would people want to see: more new settings like the Realm of the Ancients and the Medieval Building sets, or expansions for the settings we already have? Stefan has stated that there are only plans for three ROTA sets, which means that we've seen about 50-60% of what that setting will EVER include. The dungeon sets, meanwhile, have tons and tons of expansions.

Me, I'd like to see both ROTA and MBS continue with a lot more stuff, along two lines: "advanced builder" sets that provide new ways to build but don't include "flashy" new accessories, and sets with not much building potential but lots of cool lookin' stuff to spice up a layout. Half walls and half corners and so on for ROTA and MBS would be great, and so would things like traps and fountains and archways and things like the lava fountain, the chasm piece, the crypt, and so on. There are so many options!

Others may feel that ROTA and MBS are already cool enough, and there's no need to beat a dead horse -- we'd much rather see cool new settings that blow us away the way DoE and ROTA did when we first see them. Let's get those dungeon sewers, those ice caverns, that volcanic lair done, and maybe some outdoor sets or township pieces! Let's see more NEW stuff rather than slight variations on pieces we already own.

What does everyone think?

And feel free to chime in, Stefan and Jeff! What do YOU guys want? For your own games/collections! And, Stefan, what are you in the mood to build? No need to give away any secrets, of course -- but would you rather find ways to fine tune and expand upon what you've started, or are your creative juices tending more towards creating newer and newer settings?

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#31895
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
well for me, my sig says it all ;)
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#31896
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
I think I'd prefer to see continued expansion of the sets already in existence, especially with "decorative" elements like was seen in WA 1 & 2, Fantasy Floors, Tavern Acessoriesn, Sci-Fi Delta - - stuff that makes what we already own that much more useful. A doors set is certainly a great example of this, as would be Aracon's idea of an Entrances expansion set that perhaps crossed set boundaries (included entrances for different DF lines all in the same box).

New DoE, Master Maze, Cavern and RotA sets excite me more than thinking about another brand new setting right now.
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#31897
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
While I LOVE seeing new goodies come from the mind of Stefan and Jeff (sort of a collective gestalt that makes one Super-Mind, like the Borg), I also appreciate the refinements they come up with, like bowtie-less replacements.
In the ten years plus that I've been collecting and using DF environments, if there's ONE THING I've discovered, it's that no matter WHAT WE think of, we will NEVER come up with what Stefan comes up with, or if we do, then Jeff will top that, and if we beat HIM, the gestalt will blow ALL OF US away!
So, I gave up trying to out-think those two. I just make my suggestions now and then, stick my oar in the waters here on the forums, occasionally enter my wisecracks and jokes and sometimes not-so-subtle jabs, and get FANTASTIC results.
It's taken quite a while, and I DOUBT if I can claim more than a TINY part of the credit, but I remember whining and moaning at Stefan about Grand Staircases AND Entrances at least two or three years ago, and not just once or twice - it might take a search back through the forum archives, but I'll bet you could find the posts.
I guess perseverance - and being a PEST, which more than one person, here and elsewhere has told me I'm GOOD at - has paid off!

If you ask nicely, often enough, consistently enough, with rational reasons enough, with enough support from others on the forum - and spend enough on other stuff! - generally speaking, you can get most anything you want from someone who makes things that they eventually want to sell. Artists are very creative people, and we need a LOT more than we currently have, but they do have this habit that I share - they like to eat. So when they make stuff that I like, I buy it, and generally speaking, I've noticed that you guys are just like me - you buy Stefan's stuff too! That's how we keep Stefan making just about anything we want, if we ask him nicely enough, often enough.

So; Who's up for Khazad-Dum? Who wants more goodies for MBS? Sci-Fi add-ons? Jim Morrisons (think about it)?
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#31898
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
So; Who's up for Khazad-Dum? Who wants more goodies for MBS? Sci-Fi add-ons? Jim Morrisons (think about it)?
Yes Sci-Fi add ons, and Doors for ALL.

I still want a passage end for Sci-Fi, some other doora, and man if we could get (maybe from Tony griffon) the rest of the passage inserts...


But yeah expand a bit on what's out... but i can see why, new linws can be usefull to adding customers who might not be interested in whats out now ( i didn't buy anything but accesories till sci-fi was made)
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#31899
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Yeah, it occurred to me that one reason DF has been doing things the way they have is that the "starter" sets for a new setting may sell a lot more than the expansions for older settings do. Even if a lot of fans say they feel the way I do, that we want to see X and Y for an older setting more than we want to see something new, it may be the case that almost everybody buys a starter set for a new setting, while people pick and choose which expansions they get. (well, some fans do -- I'm one of the "gets everything" fans)

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#31900
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Good topic!

As a quick sidenote; as far as new sets go I would still very much like to see a "Modern" set. Something like MBS but with a more contemporary feel. This would be great for Nearfuture, Sci-Fi, Superhero, Gangsters, and so forth... A lot of potential for crossing genre in a set like this.

With that said, in general, I would love to see further expansions of existing sets, particularly:

- Sci-Fi (I know it does not sell but I can dream)
- MBS (There are lots of possibilities here, especially in terms of accessories sets)
- MM (The fantasy dungeon that kickstarted the rest has come a long way, but I feel that there is a lot of room to grow--again, especially with accessories in mind).

maj!
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#31901
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
I rather see more expansions to existing lines. Here are my thoughts on each line...


-Caverns: This line needs the river and lake sets where the water is replaced by lava! Also maybe some river type set that are more "engineered angles" to use as sewer pieces.

- DoE: it feels fairly complete actually, maybe it could use another expansion similar to the DoE Wicked Edition or maybe even an ABS-DoE.

- Fantasy MM: Needs bowtieless diagonal floors/walls. Also bowtieless curved walls(like the cavern curved wall size 4x4) and floors. Also a bowtieless deluxe room set with the torches or wall pieces that have interchangeable shields/art/heraldry. I would love to see more decor for this line: statues/fountains/wells/armory racks/ fireplaces/fire pits/Thrones/dais/altars/suits of standing armor/large mirrors/wizard study decor and finally a big ass set of Awesome DOORS! whew!

-MBS: I love this line! Needs walls of wealthy-noble-merchant class decor on them. Also wealthy class furniture/market-merchant carts/more types of doors like half dutch doors that the bottom stays closed and the top half opens.

RotA: I really love the expansion- RotA II. I prefer the jackals heads over the sun faces. Those stairs are really wow! The large floor piece is totally awesome. The entryway, way, way stellar! But really how many can one use? Maybe it should be an individual piece.

Sci-Fi I can't really comment on it since I don't own any. I don't understand why the sets are halved compared to the Fantasy MM line? I can build 2-3 decent sized rooms with a basic fantasy room set. Can you even make one decent sized room with the sci-fi starter set?
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#31902
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
I want a continuation of the old sets. I want a set of sewers for every set!
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#31903
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Doors, more doors and all sorts of doors

DOE: needs more passages, 2" and 6" straights along with curves and 6" walls with no murals. Also needs some wicked traps, torture chamber

Sci-Fi: I'd personally like to see a "Hiver" layout (for use in fantasy but most Sci Fi people would like this as well) ... something like the tunnels from the books of Arachnids in Starship Troopers

MBS: Passages, Store walls set, Library, Temple,

Dungeon: Sewers

Cavern: Ice, Lava, mud
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#31904
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Expand (or complete) the existing lines first please.
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#31905
Poll: New settings, or expansions for old? 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
I'd like to see more new products that enhance their existing lines. Doors, themed walls, entrances, sewer pieces, etc. for the dungeon, cavern, and MBS line.
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