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#31792
Unofficial "repainting ROTA" thread 5 Years, 11 Months ago  
OK.. this is a bit early, since the set hasn't even come out yet.. BUT.. for those of us planning varying degrees of repainting on the ROTA sets, I thought it would be good to have one easy-to-find location to check for recipes, advice, etc. So far there has been a decent amount of discussion of this topic, but it's been scattered throughout various other threads, and come February, I'm gonna want to find stuff more easily than that. I figure, so is anyone else who wants to repaint these.

Now, I'm planning on leaving one set alone. A) I'm a purist, and I want an "official" version. B) I am not positive I won't screw it up, so I want at least one "clean" set. C) I kinda like the idea of having "both" versions.


For the repaint... there are various ways I can imagine approaching this, but I'm thinking of going with the following:

1. Inkwash all the floors with a dark color. Alternatively, paint the whole floor in a dark grey or black. An inkwash usually leaves a little gloss, at least when I do it, and so if I want the cracks not to shine, I might go ahead and paint rather than inkwash. So long as it is a very thin coat, and depending on how deep the space between the tiles is, it could work.

2. Drybrush the entire floor surface grey. If I really want to match the original look, that's the basic tile color -- I have somewhat glossy paints, so if I just paint each tile, they'll all be glossy. If I want the "base" color to be dusty and flat, and most importantly matte, then I need to drybrush the whole thing to get started.

3. Pick out individual tiles and dab them with a brush. They'll end up kinda glossy, which is fine -- so long as I leave enough grey ones behind, it should still work.

4. Optional final step -- a very fine greyish-brown drybrush to flatten out the color and weather the whole thing a bit. It would remove the gloss a bit from the colored tiles, and it would give them all an outline in a uniform faded dusty color. Without this step, the colored tiles will stand out more, brighter, glossier, and without the same weathering and texture as the other tiles. Which could work. It seems to depend on whether I want a really ancient, faded look or not. With the drybrushing, they will be more faded, with some of the color showing through but an overall dusty one-tone look.


I doubt I have the talent to get EXACTLY what the original pieces looked like, but I hope to approximate it.

Anyone want to offer me advice, refinements, suggestions for how to do this? I am thinking of basically trying to duplicate the original design with one set, but I may snag another and do something more my own -- for those of us who DO paint, the compromise that was struck to get ROTA made is perfect, we can either use it straight out of the box, or turn it into whatever we want. And all the "basic' painting has been done, so we get to concentrate on the fun stuff: the highlighting! There are so many ways to approach it...

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#31793
Unofficial "repainting ROTA" thread 5 Years, 11 Months ago  
L -

Get an airbrush, or a can of Testors Dullcote and a respirator.
Regardless of what paints you use, the LAST THING you do is either an airbrush dusting of a clear flat coat, such as Testors or Tamiya clear flat, or the Testors Dullcote lacquer (that's why the respirator - the lacquer will LITERALLY KILL you!) and give one or two coats to kill any gloss colors and knock it down to flat. If you've used dull, muted colors, that should be all you'll need to make it look 'Ancient' and still give the impression that here was a vibrant, living civilization that died away from as-yet unknown causes.
Make sure to match your colors, too; a 'Sun-Worshippers' group would use a lot of reds and yellows, while ones who were into plants and growing thing would use lots of green and yellow and orange. Sea-going people would have green and blue and indigo; look at blue, indigo, violet and white in a cold region. A tropical island civilization would mix sun and sea colors, so you could see almost all but maybe violet and white in their tiles and paints.
Just my thoughts, and of course, I can be as wrong as anyone else. But that's MY ideas.
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#31794
Unofficial "repainting ROTA" thread 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hmmm, maybe I'm the only one thinking of doing repaints. Well, I have a question, I'm faced with a choice. I want to hear what people think.

Option 1: I could do what I suggested above with 1 ROTA set: inkwash to provide darker cracks between generally lighter tiles, and add color to the mosaic on top of that. The tiles will, on the whole, be lighter than the space between. It will be an inversion of the basic scheme provided.

Option 2: Add color to the tiles as they are, without inkwashing or changing the general tone. That way, the pieces will all work with "undoctored" pieces, and I won't have to pick and choose when I'm setting things up.

Either way, I want a simple mosaic pattern so that final arrangements won't be cluttered with too much "noise." But my real question is: should I go for the original look and end up with pieces that won't really "work" with the official stuff (say, if I need just one floor piece, but not only does it have a mosaic, which might not matter, it will also have entirely different color tiles and cracks, and really stand out as inconsistent with every other tile in the room, in a way that does not seem intentional.....

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#31795
Unofficial "repainting ROTA" thread 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hi L -

I'd suggest sticking with a scheme that would enhance the modularity of the sets rather than detracting from them. After all, that's the beauty of DF, right?

Why paint a pattern that would, if inserted into a ROTA setup, look out of place? Why diminish the utility and versatility of your sets just to exercise your paintbrush for a unique, but "noisy" mosaic pattern?

Maybe try that on a Plastruct or dollhouse tile sheet and trim it to be a drop-in insert to cover the more useable ROTA patterns?

Good luck with whatever you decide !!
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#31796
Unofficial "repainting ROTA" thread 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Depending on how many i got, i was actually contemplating not doing a just a Repaint, but a Repair... Fill in some of the cracks, and make a less ruined one. But that's me.
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#31797
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Depending on how many i got, i was actually contemplating not doing a just a Repaint, but a Repair... Fill in some of the cracks, and make a less ruined one. But that's me.
... And I was considering MORE destruction and more ruins :D
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#31798
Unofficial "repainting ROTA" thread 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
I am considering a washed out color look in a corner... Let me explain.

Paint 1/4 of the tiles in a corner or something and then dull the colors using a mix of white and clear cry brushing. Then brown ink it.

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#31799
Unofficial "repainting ROTA" thread 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
Hmmm.. good ideas, good ideas.

I'm starting to wonder, myself, whether or not I really WANT to repaint the floors. Looking at the pics of various setups, it seems that there's a real advantage to having a kind of "neutral" floor -- it keeps things "clean" and allows particular areas to stand out. It might just be cluttered and distracting if every floor piece were a colorful mosaic.

I'm still probably going to paint SOME of the pieces. I'll re-create, as best I can, the green-and-yellow intersection piece that was shown at GAMA, and I'll try an original variation on another intersection piece, probably in blue and gold. I'll also paint some of the floor pieces in something like the pattern originally shown, though with slightly different colors. That way I'll have the option of doing a full room with a mosaic instead of just an intersection piece. But overall I'm actually kinda glad the original scheme wasn't feasible -- this way we have the option of a more neutral design. I do wish the painted intersections were not just pre-order freebies, though, since that both punishes future customers and also makes them harder to get for all fans. I'd be willing to pay $20-35 for a painted intersection, especially if two or three versions were available and I could get them as easily as any other individual piece -- i.e. not only for a limited time in conjunction with a pre-order deal.

Almost February...!

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#31800
Unofficial "repainting ROTA" thread 5 Years, 10 Months ago  
L -

Here's an idea for a repaint.

figure out where the 'lee side' corner would be for each floor tile, and paint the mosaic as you think it would have originally looked (or if you have a GOOD pic of what Stefan originally wanted the set to look like, use that) in the lee corner, and gradually thin it out as you come out of the corner into the center of the floor, where both traffic during the time when the city was alive, and wind or water flow afterward, would have abraded the mosaic tiles fired surface until the color was worn away to gray ceramic base. Then, in the lees, lightly dust over the color with a THIN coating of model railroad sand, using scenic cement to glue it down but keep it translucent, so you can see the color under the sand. When everything is set and dry, hit it with an acrylic flat clearcoat, like matte medium - you want to eventually be able to get the sand off without destroying the resin OR the paint job.
Take LOTS of pictures, both of the painting process and the finished project!!!
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