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#31761
So -- who lives in the ROTA? 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
Kinda tacky to slap a copyright notice on a Dwarven Forge site in response to ROTA, something owned by Dwarven Forge.

I second: "If you are going to follow up a post with a supposedly legal notice that no one can use anything in your post, then why post at all?"
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#31762
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I think it was tongue in cheek - am I right?
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#31763
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Oooh, more copyright! Of course, my exam is over now. . . but still, a chance to review!

"Combaticus the Great, former champion of Athenium, with a Y-shaped scar on his right cheek, who wears golden armor with a red hippogriff on the breastplate, whose wife was slain by Vulgart the Evil and whose three children shun him for his excesses in wenching and drink" is copyrightable as a particular set of words. It could not be "substantially copied" without infringement. (That includes more than just verbatim copying, but in a case like this, with just a phrase, it's probable that only verbatim copying would count) Interestingly, though, the CHARACTER of Combaticus, with just this description, is NOT eligible for copyright protection, at least probably not. It gets kinda complicated, but as a general rule, novels and such (plays, screenplays, etc) are eligible for (c) protection, but characters tend not to be.

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#31764
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I see this thread got hijacked off topic... Unless someone was insinuating that copyright lawyers live in the RotA.

Actually that might be more frightening... be like a layer of hell
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#31765
So -- who lives in the ROTA? 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
Sorry about the hijack, but if I published a novel about Harry Potter, or released a movie about Indiana Jones, I'm pretty sure I'd get my keister sued clean off! What is that, if not copyright (or trademark) on characters?

And if I missed a joke, then I apologize for my vitriolic and heavy-handed response.

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RotA could also be the contemporary headquarters of a cult of sun-worshippers, or the temple/tomb of a mighty cleric of a sun-god, or even the home to a host of semi-heavenly creatures. (Just because they are "good", doesn't mean they aren't dangerous, especially if they adhere to the philosophy of "kill 'em all and let the gods sort it out".)

It also occurs that the complicated mosaics and tilework might be a fiendishly complex set of wards. If the players can restore the patterns, they can cause or prevent a major event; or some of the tiles might have great value because of the runes inscribed on the backs, and the players have to choose between taking the tiles and getting lots of money or leaving the tiles and keeping an elder god contained.

If we get sarcophagi for RotA, or can find suitable accessories, some party might discover that the Ancients are not dead but actually in some kind of (magical?) suspended animation. How ticked of the Ancients are that a bunch of devolved barbarians are looting their homes is up to the GM.
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#31766
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I think Kradlo was the only one to "get it." It was a joke and not intended to get anybody's knickers in a knot.

Man, I can tell I've been away from these forums too long, I don't have any "forum cred" anymore. ;-}P~

Real Life (TM) has a way of catching up with you sometimes.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand: the inhabitants of the RotA... I can't steer away from the whole civilization in decline theme. The pieces just scream fall of the Roman Empire (in a fantasy context, of course).

The living co-mingling with ghosts. Kind of like the line in the song Hotel California (The Eagles) - "You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave."
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#31767
So -- who lives in the ROTA? 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
Sorry about contributing to the hijack -- but, hey, it was my thread! I just want to say one small thing.....

Sorry about the hijack, but if I published a novel about Harry Potter, or released a movie about Indiana Jones, I'm pretty sure I'd get my keister sued clean off! What is that, if not copyright (or trademark) on characters?
Well, characters are tricky -- for the most part you can't get (c), but there are various tests used (depending on which jurisdiction you're in). One of them concerns whether the character is identical to the "story being told." If the character is somehow essential to the story, which remember IS eligible for (c), then you can get (c) on the character. That would apply to something like Potter or Jones.

Of course, you COULD argue that these characters are more like archetypes than anything else -- a boy wizard, an adventuring archaeologist. You can't (c) names, and you can't (c) types, so you could, in theory, get away with this.....

..except for trademark law. You can't get (c) protection for names, but you can get all sorts of protection for them in trademark, and these are both registered trademarks (at least I know Indy is). Write a novel about an adventuring archaeologist or a boy wizard with glasses, and nobody can sue you. Write a novel with a character who happens to have the name "Harry Potter" or "Indiana Jones" (with totally different personalities, etc.) and nobody can sue you for (c) infringement. Write a novel that essentially is another HP or IJ adventure, and you can be sued till the cows come home for everything. ;)


ANYHOO -- yes, (c) lawyers DEFINITELY live in the ROTA. And I really like the ideas in this thread -- I don't know when I'll have time to paint, but I'm getting great suggestions. I am super excited for this set!!!!

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#31768
So -- who lives in the ROTA? 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
Ah. Well, I'm feeling a bit embarassed. Good one, Dante.

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How about earth elementals with the same tile mosaic as armor? (There's a mini -- mosaic all over the body, and maybe the head is the same as the sun-guy.) The ancient spells that maintained and protected the RotA have merged and twisted over time to become a sort of magical AI, and these constructs are its avatars or its antibodies. A simple Dispel Magic cast at the swirling blue orb in the chamber behind the throne room will stop them (for as long as the GM decrees), but the party has to find the chamber AND fight their way to it.

Why not populate a RotA city with cultured, genteel, erudite, sophisticated members of the ugliest, nastiest race in your particular fantasy world? (Orcs, lizard men, ogres, whatever.) The GM can decide whether they are still aggressive, and why those in this environment are different from every other that the party has ever encountered. When an ogre wearing silk robes summons up an Unseen Servant to bring hot tea and biscuits, your players will either be confused or creeped out -- both fine states for players. And there's lots of comedy potential in an orc trying to be polite or even apologetic while simultaneously trying to disembowel a character -- "Sorry, old bean, but you have to admit that you ARE trespassing, and I'm afraid that the penalty IS death. Perhaps it is the tiniest bit harsh, but rules are rules, so be a good chap and lay down your weapons, and I will remove your internal organs as swiftly and as painlessly as possible."

Ooh, vampires! A bunch of vampires live in the RotA, along with their human servants/worshippers/food-source. The sun motif is a memento or a mockery of what they have lost. The vampires don't kill their servants, but the adventurers represent a chance to feast that the blood-sucking fiends just can't pass up. (Or, a few vampires are all that is left of the Ancient race, and the sun-guy was the god who banished them from daylight forever. The party can clear out the vampires and loot the ruins.)
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#31769
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Why not populate a RotA city with cultured, genteel, erudite, sophisticated members of the ugliest, nastiest race in your particular fantasy world? (Orcs, lizard men, ogres, whatever.) The GM can decide whether they are still aggressive, and why those in this environment are different from every other that the party has ever encountered. When an ogre wearing silk robes summons up an Unseen Servant to bring hot tea and biscuits, your players will either be confused or creeped out -- both fine states for players. And there's lots of comedy potential in an orc trying to be polite or even apologetic while simultaneously trying to disembowel a character -- "Sorry, old bean, but you have to admit that you ARE trespassing, and I'm afraid that the penalty IS death. Perhaps it is the tiniest bit harsh, but rules are rules, so be a good chap and lay down your weapons, and I will remove your internal organs as swiftly and as painlessly as possible."
Hilarious! I'm stealing that idea!
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#31770
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Can't steal a gift, Harneloot. Happy holidays.
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#31771
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Well, unless you decide to copyright it or something....

;)

Thanks! And the Happy Holidays to you and yours as well!
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#31772
So -- who lives in the ROTA? 5 Years, 8 Months ago  
I don't know if any of you have ever read The California Voodoo Game by Larry Niven and Steven Barnes, but this strikes me as the PERFECT place to put that game. I won't say anything else about the game here, because it would ruin (get it?) the novel - but trust me, YOU WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME in here!!
Some of the miniatures will be a bit difficult to arrange, but they'll be worth it.

I want to play as The Griffin!
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