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#19432
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
I would like to purchase round rooms that don't need to be assembled, ogre den style. It would be too problematic to produce round wall peices so why not just make them assembled? You could make two or three different sizes and sell a whole set.
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#19433
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
It isn't too problematic to make the Round Corners and Curved Passages in Wicked Additions I. How is making a large, continuous piece simpler than making smaller sections?

I'd love to be able to make round rooms, but I'd rather have (sets of) 4 quarter-circle walls to increase my building options. Modular pieces are what make Dwarven Forge great, and I'd be disappointed to see them stray too far from that. A static room can never be anything other than what it was cast to be, but modular pieces allow us to make odd shaped chambers, or round rooms bisected (or quartered) by passageways, or great halls with rounded ends, or whatever else our imaginations can come up with.

There is another issue, that being doors. How many doors will the room have? Should there be multiple round rooms (of each size), each with a different number of doors? Or will there be gaps in the wall where doors can be placed, along with a new door-sized wall piece to block gaps where there isn't a door? Since doors are already made to be the same height as walls, why not just cut the room into pieces at each gap?

For one instance of prior discussion of how curved walls might be done, go to
www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=1007
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#19434
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
I have 99999 modular peices. A few static rooms to throw in the mix would kick much arse. I have wa1 and all I can do with the round peices is make "loaf of bread" rooms. I think DF should totally make some single peice rooms to fill out the line. There are all kinds of wierd shapes that could be done to extend the possibilities.
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#19435
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
If DF were to make Round Corners on 4" or 6" bases, you could make a decent-sized round room. Adding a single 2' wall piece to each compass point has less and less impact on the shape as the diameter of the room increases. And keeping the option of placing additional modular pieces against four quarter-circles gives you the ability to create circular, loaf-of-bread, semi-circular, and even clover-shaped rooms, with doors and alcoves and torches and other features.

Single-piece rooms don't seem to sell. As much as some forum-goers praise the Ogre's Den, it was apparently not a big seller (or it would still be available). From what I've read, people who didn't buy the Ogre's Den felt that it had limited use because of the details that were already built into it. I suppose that if a room were more generic (bare walls and floors), it might have broader appeal.

But the problem of limited options remains, in door placement and in room dimensions. If all possibilities are catered to (small, medium, and large sizes; one through four doors), you end up with a dozen rooms -- fifteen, if you include a two-door configuration that has doors on adjacent walls. That's twelve or fifteen for each room shape -- round, square, rectangular, whatever.

If the number of pieces necessary to build a room is the issue, why not lobby for a set with larger modular pieces? A set with 6" walls, corners (square and round) on 4" bases, and 4"x4" or larger floor sections will allow you to build a room with fewer pieces. (Personally, I favor the idea of a corner on a 4"x4" base, but with the 2"x2" section opposite the corner cut out to form an L shape -- this allows us to put Fantasy Floor pieces close to the corner, or to place a Corner Passage inside the large corner and build double passages for mazes.)
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#19436
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
To allow for flexibility you could have some 4x4" (or 6x6) curved wall pieces (in quaters). I would have a couple of these with full walls and one with a stairwell (in the floor) and possibly another with a balcony opening off of it.

Then I would have some 1/8th sections with either a door, window, full wall and a passageway conversion in the wall sections of the smaller piece(s).

These could be arranged/situated amongst the 1/4 pieces as required since it is creating a consistant (circular) shape with no outside floors.

Add a rounded stairwell to the mix and I'd be grabbing a couple sets of these for tower setups - in a second.
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#19437
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
Philip -

Please don't take this as a trollism, but with 100K pieces, you should seriously think in terms of resin butchery to fabricate your own, custom rooms. No kidding!
Yes, it can get messy, chopping up DF resin, but I've done it before, and it can really improve the versatility! Also, consider using 'butchered' pieces to make molds for OTHER custom parts, that you could then glue up into dedicated rooms. Stefan and Jeff have indicated that, as long as it's for personal use, they do NOT object to custom copies of DF pieces to use in larger projects. Just don't reproduce and sell them.
I know a lot of DF users are right NOW taking gas and screaming "Cut up DF? Are you NUTS?!?!?!" but it does work, and it isn't as difficult as people would think. If I ever get madyank.org running, I'll post pics and how-to articles on DF butchery and cloning.

Think of Stefan's work as a BEGINNING, not an end. He has given birth to a new lifeform, not a static golem.

Now if we could just get Jeff to release the paints; then we could really duplicate the colors, both to repair the damage we do, and to match up HA and cloned parts. With a painting guide, we could develop prototypes for Stefan to study for mass production as well; I certainly wouldn't object to having DF take a design of mine and add it to the line, IF I ever did something that good. And they could even have it free, especially if they were willing to credit me as designing it, as they do Sandra Garrity on her figures. THAT would be cool!

Just some rambling thoughts there, starting from the idea of build your own round rooms.

See ya!

Jim
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#19438
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
I just put a hex on you. I will remove it after halloween but you might loose a random body part or appendage. Do not be alarmed!
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#19439
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
jkratzer - that sounds like a lot of work!

Is there person who makes the custom DF peices and sells them on e-bay on this board? Some of his acutions just ended and the peices looked great.

WOW - 1k of DF pieces.....i'm a LONG way from there....phillip - is it all still boxed, or do you have an alternate storge system for so many pieces?
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#19440
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
You might find this thread useful, if you haven't seen it already:

www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=1007
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#19441
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
otherworld;

Glad to see you posted the link to that older thread. I remember that set of pics you posted, and my comments to you and wereweasel.

You and I have had our diffs before here, but NOT on THAT subject! You still Rock!

See ya - and I still want my set!

Jim
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#19442
Round, Odd Rooms 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Finally. Now younz guys are talkin. A tower set...! I would like 4 and 6" quarter sections but leave one or two room for a door " so you can make it completely circular if you wish with out adding an opening for a door. Cut out the inside so we can add diagonal walls or more curved walls " when we get the curve wall backs " and even regular walls or any variety there in. A circular stairs or book case ala Otherworld would be great also. We could leave the four central floors out and put in one of the fantasy floor sections like the pool or lava fountain....
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