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#16047
Some different ideas??? 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Ghostmage asked "How about some very cool looking "portals""

Not quite the portals you were talking about, but here's one alternative.



As a Star Trek fan, you may like these too, Jim

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#16048
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For those of you who just joined us, welcome to the Ghostmage Industries, Ltd thread for new ideas for DF Dungeons/products!

Before sounding off with the new idea(s) for the day, **Special thanks goes out to: L -- for the GREAT Cavernous River & Wall set-up pictures** There were some great first person shots there that were very inspiring!

To visualize this next idea, it's best if you look at L's photos and actually place yourself on that little raft traveling down the river with other PCs to...some unknown destination. As a DM building this caverous map and writing an adventure for his next campaign, where does this journey end? -- where does the caverous river finally lead you too? Is it a wild snake river canyon ride leading to a soon to come "Lake" where you battle it out with some huge, sea serpent? Is it raft ride leading to a mysterious island filled with treasure? If you you have 3 Lake sets coming like me, will it be a long raft ride across the "Dead Sea"?

In my current set-up, still awaiting the Lakes, it's a pretty large spread culminating with a HUGE cavern -- a dragon's den/lair of legend! The multiple layers of walls (3 or 4) work nicely here to set the stage, but when that huge Red Dragon awakes and spreads those wings...to me there's something missing...

1) I would love to see a "ceiling" on this last dungeon cavern. A CAVERNOUS DOME that sits on top of these walls. One with serious stalagtites to top the whole thing off! I seriously feel the it would give a better sense of depth for the Dragon and his wing-span. Of corse it couldn't be a "whole dome"...probably couldn't see your miniatures very well, but give me a Half-Dome. That would be cool!

Taking it a step beyond that, maybe there could be a couple of square holes cut-out in the top of this DF Cavern Dome where "special large stalagtite inserts" could be installed. These stalagtites could be standard variety and then when PCs venture beneath them, the DM pulls the standard ones out and inserts...DarkMantles with tentacles (see D&D MM page 39) or stalagtite with large spiders, bats or anything that generally hangs from giant cave ceilings. Maybe the center stalagtite is removed all together, leaving a square hole in the roof and the PCs actually enter your cavernous dungeon with a 100ft rope from the ruined temple or monastary layout from up above! Now we're talking! That would be cool to see a long rope dropped down into my sleeping dragon's den!

2) I would also like to see a special river or lake piece made by DF. one with a PILE of treasure half submerged. I envision this square water piece to have rubies and gems seen below water level (like the fish) along with a pile of gold that is spread half below water level and piling up about a half inch above the surface. Hey it's the romantic in me!
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#16049
Some different ideas??? 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Tony, Thanks for the E-Bay pics! Those aren't bad for the Sci-Fi side.

Your comment regarding Star Trek has triggered off in my mind what I actually envision for the new DwarvenForge-Portal design (or something similar to it)-- it was that very cool stone-arch portal that Kirk and Spock stepped into in that one episode: "City on the Edge of Tomorrow"...I think that was the episode *laughs* Now that was a killer portal and it has the look of easily being either Sci-Fi or Fantasy fare. Maybe I can find a picture of that! Thanks again, partner!
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#16050
Some different ideas??? 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Today's idea from Ghostmage Industries, LTD...

I would love to see a "River and Lake Traps set"! A few more unique water tiles to spice up that tranquil river setting that we currently have. How about a river tile with a sublte ripple effect and then another tile with some white foam and maybe another with some white water effect to show rough waters ahead? I'd like to see a river tile with a large "whirlpool" or water vortex effect made within the resin, if it's possible. If not, then possibly an open water lake tile with resin banked to one side slightly in a curved fashion. If 4 such Open Lake tiles were connected together, I envision a LARGE Whirlpool effect with the 4 tiles! This would be very cool as a whirlpool trap for those raft riders, an entry point to introduce that giant Water Naga arriving on the scene, or even a "down-the-drain" entrance for the raft riders to plunge into the next Cavernous River/Lake level below! Maybe the river based treasure tile mentioned previously could be added in to make this the River/Lake traps and treasure set.

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#16051
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Today's idea from Ghostmage Industries, LTD...

I would love to see Dwarven Forge's interpretation of a "Spider Queen's Cavern" or Lair! Such a layout would fit in nicely with the current cavern sets that we have. I envision the passages to reach such a lair to be a little different from the standard cavern passages and dungeon walls...maybe curved (vertically) in construction. Not curved too much, but enough so that when the passages are put together, it would somewhat resemble a "tunneled" passage layout; still allowing miniatures to be moved around. Artistically speaking, I'm not sure how you could make the webbing effects, but I'm sure Stefan could pull it off. The curved passage pieces should have some sort of webbing effect heavily throughout; possibly webs "petrified" within the ancient, stone tunneled walls themselves! That could look great! I envision the Spider Queen's lair itself to be very intensive with the petrified webbing effects with cocoon-like structures built into the cavern wall pieces and large refuse piles of hardened webbing, rusted weapons and body parts piled up into some of the actual tile floor pieces. Large, round, spiderweb cocoons could also be built into a couple of floor pieces with maybe one floor tile showing a large cocoon that is intact, while another floor piece would show an exploded or "opened" cocoon. There could easily be a SCI-FI tie-in with a set such as this, with an alien-insectoid creature nesting here instead of a D&D Spider Queen. The slightly rounded "tunnel" passage as described could be used for entry into the Spider Queen's lair or...maybe even that SEWER that some others are suggesting DF make!
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#16052
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Today's idea from Ghostmage Industries, LTD...

Yes, Dwarven Forge has them all beat with those labyrinths deep-down below, but how about backing up a click, to where most adventures start? How about an "above-ground" set? With Stefan's tested use of the resin(water) in the floor tiles, I'd love to see that water blacken a bit for a DF Swamp Set! Mix in some dark cypress knees, an array of thick, black, dead trees with heavy roots in the water and it could be a haunted bog/hell-swamp that drips with EVIL. Add in a few swamp tiles with "bad things" in the water, fallen tree trunks for natural bridge passage and a couple of "clearing" tiles for that NightHag and/or Were-Rat encampment and you have an above ground setting with some flavor! Cap it off with some cool tiles for an above ground Crypt/Ruins with an unforgettable entrance into the lower depths and we'll tie it all together -- Imagine your minis wading through a twisting, snake-infested swamp setting in search of the outlying, Nosferatu crypt-ruins that until recently, have long been lost through the passage of time... the crypt ruins with the secret entrance that LEADS down into those famous DF Dungeons and Caverns! The question that this set should ask: Can your party survive a journey
through the swamps long enough to even make it to the dungeon entrance? I hope one day we get the chance to find out. Put me down for 4 sets on pre-order!
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#16053
Some different ideas??? 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Dwarven Forge is firmly established in a well-defined niche -- underground/interior structural pieces. Almost all of the pieces you mention for a swamp are available from other companies (some in other markets, like model railroad landscaping supplies), and many of them qualify as "furniture" (trees and logs) or buildings (crypt).

For brackish or moss-slicked water, I suggest printing graphics on transparency, cutting to fit, and laying the printed transparency directly on water tiles. It's easy, and requires less storage than a second set of water tiles.

The swamp/marsh idea might translate to the underground setting, though. Logs might certainly have drifted down an underground stream, or been brought in by subterranean dwellers to make crude bridges. I don't see trees growing underground as a matter of course, but if the chamber is large (tall) enough (like a cavern from "Journey to the Center of the Earth") then trees are certainly possible -- they MIGHT fall under the general classification of "columns".

A "column" composed of roots might be interesting. Use wire of various gauges; use three or four wires as a base, and "hang" the rest of the wires from those (so that the roots appear to hang down, rather than growing up).

Sheets of "hanging" moss (narrow and sparse at the bottom, thick and continuous at the top) would also be neat in a cavern environment, and provide concealment for creatures/adventurers and impediments to missile weapons and some spells (depending on the GM). Think of it as a row of soft stalactites...
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#16054
Some different ideas??? 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Thanks Jack, for the feedback.

Yeah, I'm just throwing ideas out there in hopes of creating some "sparks" for Dwarven Forge...and others like yourself. It sounds like you have some experience as an actual builder -- very cool!

I'm not a builder or designer; just a guy that buys the pieces and plays my heart out with them. My wife gave me $5,000 to spend on DF pieces this year, so I'm throwing some stuff at them to see what sticks. You mentioned some other "companies" that make some of this stuff already. DF makes the best gaming pieces that I personally have ever seen! If you know of anything out there comparable to what DF puts out, please drop me a line so I can check them out too! I just haven't been able to find anything that matches with DF's quality

PS -- I LOVED your idea about a possible "Hive" set! That one probably beats any of my ideas, so far. I hope DF makes that set.

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#16055
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IMO, ArmorCast made some terrain pieces of comparable quality to DF, but they did "outdoor" terrain so it's apples and oranges. Alas, they've abandoned most (if not all) of their terrain lines. (Which included a couple of trees that might've done well in your swamp.)

I don't think the hive will ever be a DF product (way too specific), but Ghenghis Ska made some gorgeous pieces at home and shared the construction process with us.

Not actually a builder, just got some good guidance myself when I started posting ideas. Some of the questions I ask myself when I'm thinking about potential new DF pieces are "How often can I use it?" and "How many different settings can I use it in?" If the answers are "frequently" and "plenty", I post the idea as a DF potential -- if the answers are "seldom" and "few", I STILL post the idea as a possible mod for builders and kit-bashers to play with.
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#16056
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If you know of anything out there comparable to what DF puts out, please drop me a line so I can check them out too! I just haven't been able to find anything that matches with DF's quality
Ghost, jack -

Tony Colasante, former ArmorCast sculptor, has started making and selling DF 'fill in' pieces on eBay, under the name Tony Griffon. He doesn't make anything DF already makes, but he DOES do stuff like corner fillers for Sci-Fi passage pieces. His corner filler for the "+" intersection is excellent, and the "T" filler isn't bad, either. I've got both - in fact, I've got all 3 fillers, including the L-passage one, as well as some other, non-DF stuff that also fits the bill to a T. They're unpainted, of course - waddaya want for dirt cheap? - but should be no problem to paint in Sci-Fi colors. He's just released the Transporter Pads and the Engineering Station; the Pads are almost (just different enough to avoid copyright garbage from a certain Major Motion Picture Studio!) like on a starship we all know and love, and the Engineering Station has the same level of resemblance to dilithium chambers from the same ship and show. His Bacta Tank is a spitting image, but the Computer Console is totally independent, as is the Local Area Node (LAN) Tower.
This stuff is GOOD; if you do any Sci-Fi gaming - SW, ST, B5, DragonStar - go hit eBay and search him; it's well worth the time, and as I said, the prices are DIRT CHEAP!

See ya!

Jim
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#16057
Some different ideas??? 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Today's idea from Ghostmage Industries, LTD...

This idea comes to me on the heels of a LONG cavern crawl that took place here this weekend. A lot of ground was covered during the 20 hour affair and the last words spoken by one of the PCs was..."whew, what in the world could be coming up next?" I actually laughed to myself when I heard this question...probably the same thing that Dwarven Forge asks themselves before they sit down to plan and design their next BIG set!

What WOULD actually lie below numerous tiers of caverns, underground rivers and cavernous
lakes...many levels deeper???

Maybe a "Cavernous Dragon Graveyard" and adjoining "Dragon's Lair/Treasure Chamber"!

If such a set were to happen, I envision this mythical place to look...well, very "Mythical". I see the passages of the cavern walls to be of a much darker stone and/or mineral when we start to venture that deep...maybe black, volcanic, obsidian stone with more jagged edges in the wall-work than what we have seen so far. Embedded in these ebon-walls could be large skeletal structures that have been fossilized over time. A huge skull w/attached
spine-work might run down a long stretch of passageway. Wing-shaped skeletal structures might be seen in the walls further down. Prehistoric Lizards or Pteradactyl Flyers you ask? ...ummm, no. -- DRAGONS!

I see these passages as described above, culminating into a large "Dragon's Graveyard" where Stefan's artwork could just...run amok! There could be fossilized dragon bones, teeth, horns, claws, wings and tails (dragons have such a cool anatomy!) jutting out of both floor and wall pieces here and there. Maybe in one large cavern wall, there could even be a full-size, Dragon Lich that "appears" to be petrified within the wall! I also envison a new passage that would attach to this graveyard and lead to an adjoining treasure chamber, where the real beast awaits! I envision the walls leading into this trove to have raw ruby crystals jutting out... or maybe "veins" of gold throughout the wall pieces!

When the players enter this treasure chamber, they should say the same thing that they said when they saw my cavernous river layout -- "Oh My GOD" were the words as I recall. From either an artistic or gaming viewpoint, the possibilities are endless for what could be in this Dragon's treasure trove/chamber! Just leave us a spot to plant that dragon mini! If such a set will ever be realized, it would definitely be the (!) after the title: Dungeons & Dragons!

My final thoughts on this are that the contrast of black stone with bone colored skeletal features would be striking -- as would the red rubies (or any gemstones for that matter) and/or gold veins against the black wall structures. This would be a fabulous set to have as a finale to those LONG cavernous adventures which, thanks to DF, I am now becoming famous for in this neighborhood!
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#16058
Some different ideas??? 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Ghost -

Gold and silver seams and pockets in the walls, embedded with sapphires, rubies, and other gems.
Gold - dragon bones
Silver - dragon nerves
Rubies - oxygenated dragon blood, going OUT from the heart to the body
Sapphires - dragon blood returning to the heart for recirc
Emeralds - dragon digestive juices
Diamonds - dragon brain cells

NOW, who's the weird one around here?

I claim the title of Baddest Weirdy!! Any challengers?

See ya!

Jim
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