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#15509
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Hi there !

I checked the catalogue and I think the cavernous passage set and rooms are great but it should be excellent to get the same with ice and snow.
By the way,I think after the lake we need the lava tiles inside a volcano for dragons purposes.
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#15510
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
All excellent ideas -- there has been talk of doing "ice" and "lava" sets before, there was even a brief debate about which would be more useful (for fantasy and Sci-fi gaming purposes).

Stefan has indicated he'd really love to do one or both of these, but no idea whether or not they're next on the list. Still, maybe one day....

If you go through old threads, you should be able to find custom jobs people have done for ice. I think some are in the Cool Photos section...

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#15511
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
There was a thread titled "More Lava" that was revived for interest in lava, but ended up as a lobby for ice pieces. I believe it contains pix (or leads to another thread with pix) of some very pretty ice customs, and I believe it was the thread in which Stefan mentioned his interest in doing some work along these lines (eventually).
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#15512
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Actually as one of the ice custom people, the new rivers set has made me want to try some lava sets... i have been casting some Hirst arts floor tiles and scetching some ideas for both more ice and lava stuff.. :)
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#15513
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
GS -

Have you taken a look at detachable ice for the RIVER Set?

Hmmmm.....

See ya!

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#15514
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Yup hqve a few ice flows setting up as of right now... Trying a different substance this time want to see how that works...

Lava i think wil not e clear at all....
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#15515
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Yup hqve a few ice flows setting up as of right now... Trying a different substance this time want to see how that works...

Lava i think wil not e clear at all....

KNEW I could count on you to jump right in the water, so to speak!
And, no, I agree; Lava will not be clear; it WILL be a kind of orange-y yellow, with red bits of molten rock floating in it, and trimmed from the clear transparency it's printed on before being lovingly rubbed down on the clear resin water in the cavernous river sets.

Or at least, that's how I THINK it will work, kinda-sorta.

Get well, we'll see ya later!

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#15516
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Sorry, i wanted to work on some of this over the 4th, but starting on sunday night after or D&D game i started to feel really bad, i left work early on monday, and was pretty much in bed from 3 on monday afternoon till this morning at 9 am... came down with a nasty flu or cold not sure which... (and talking to some one else from the D&D game i'm not the only one who got sick). So didn't get anything done.

the one Experimental peice i did i'm not sure if i like it or not, for a water effect it may have come out fine, but for ice... eh, i want to try a few other things.

I was actually not even thinking about transparencies for the lava, i was thinking going full tilt and making up a seperate flow similar to the rivers but with thick plaster or something to get that flow effect. Making a border similar to the Rivers or a floor section with HA, and then a flow in the middle, or just a full on big bit o lava.

Form what i have experinced with the transparencies from WWG etc, they are still very much see through, and i think you would be able to tell/see the orginal water/river section underneath them. It might work great for the Ice, but i don't think it would work well for the lava. The idea you suggest does sound good for the ice, an over lay but i think it would be too transparatnt for the lava.
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#15517
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Find someone with a good color laser and have at it.
Or for that matter, make 'em up and e-mail them to me in either a bmp or jpg format and I'LL print the damned things! I'll have to find laser-rated transparencies, but that shouldn't be TOO hard to do, these days.
Include your mailing addy so I can send them back to you.

See ya!

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#15518
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
My only reservation about transparencies for lava is that the water in the river sets is distinctly green -- the resin is clear, but the riverbed etc. is tinted.

So the lava would not really be the right color, and I think it might be impossible to get it REALLY right. There might be ways to come close, but the specific orange/red you'd want is impossible with a green base.

At least, that's what I expect will happen....

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#15519
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Why are you putting your lava transparencies on top of river tiles? Why not put them on standard floor tiles? You'll have a (lighter) grey background instead of a (darker) green background.

If you are considering printing your own transparencies, remember that you will be putting them down on a flat surface with no light source behind/under them. The sheet is transparent, but ink isn't -- without the backlighting, you should do okay as far as visual color bleed goes. Set your printer for highest quaility and experiment a little.

Something you might try (I haven't, myself, but it might work) is printing on the same sheet multiple times. This would (theoretically) add layers of ink and increase the opacity of the image on a transparency. You would lose some detail (since it is unlikely you could align the sheet perfectly every time) but the indistinct edges might look more "natural".

And if opacity is a major consideration, print your lava on regular paper and carefully cut it out with a pair of scissors. Store it in one of your hardback rules books until you need it to prevent curling. (If you leave tabs at the end of some pieces, you might be able to curl the tabs around the edges of some tiles to anchor the paper bits.)
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#15520
New ideas 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Yeah, I'd forgotten the light issue -- you'll probably end up seeing almost nothing if you just put a transparency on the river.

As for why to put it on the river -- well, a couple of reasons:

1. There's a track already carved in, so you can get a good natural lava flow look going that would be tougher to accomplish on floor tiles not designed for this.

2. There's depth there, so you'd have (with the transparency) the benefits of seeing BELOW the surface, something you don't get if you just have a flat surface. For that matter...

3. Since these are, well, transparent, if you put them flat on the floor tile, you'll see the rock right there and disrupt the illusion that this is a lava flow as opposed to, you know, slightly tinted rock. It will look more like bloodstained rock than lava, if you get my drift. ACtually, I think I've tried that, come to think of it -- based on something WWG included with their pirate ship -- you can print out scorch marks and bloodstains on a transparency and then place THEM down and look like your caverns are marked up, and then just remove them to clean up. Nice effect. But wouldn't work nearly as well for lava, or anything meant to have depth and substance as opposed to being merely a stain.

Basically, the color problem and the backlighting problem make me think transparencies just won't work for lava. If anything, the best solution might be to cut out a smooth white pattern that fits exactly over the river elements, and THEN put lava on that. You lose the depth, but you get the right color, you get to SEE the color, and you get a shape that clearly shows SOMETHING flowing through the cavern and so looks "right." That may be all you can do, short of actually trying to tint the river pieces yourself....

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