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#14613
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
I was playing with the Tilsystem software tonight. It's much easier to see what pieces you might need when you can quickly throw something out there and see how it all gels.


Perhaps as part of an "advanced builder" set:

Cavern:
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45 degree curved cavernous passage. - Why must everything always be 90 degree turns? Do we *have* to have a straight dungeon? Especially in a cavern and cavernous passage setting. Let's go off in *that* direction over there and never look back. :)
A twised cavernous passage, like the twisted conversion pieces, except *both* ends are the standard passage size so that you can keep going with your now slightly off-skew passage.
More varieties on the wall-type pieces. Of course, this may be fixed up with the "movable" walls that will come with the River & Walls set. I would like to see more variations though - different "complex" walls or corners.


Fantasy:
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45 degree curved passage - For some variety.
90 degree curved passage. - Okay, so you can use the curved wall piece to simulate this as long as you're making your corridors out of room pieces. However, if you are using actual passage pieces for your passages, you're out of luck on a sharp 90 degree curve. I just think it would look cool to have it in a dungeon layout.



K. That's it until I play with the tilesystem some more.


How about the rest of you? (Let's try to list items that we haven't listed before....No mines, ice, lava, tavern, etc. unless the idea is unique and hasn't really been listed before.)
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#14614
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
Why does the Bat Cave Pole suddenly come to mind?


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#14615
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
While I created the sample cavernous lake setup with the Tile System, I noticed that it would also be nice to have some cavern 'straight' walls, that are not so 'straight' in order to create less monotonuos large caverns. With the lake that comes very handy because a sorrounding cavern pretty easy get's really large.

The second thing I noticed was, that in order to be able ro created Islands in the Lake it would be nice to have lake shore piece with 'inverted' curvature.


So to add to the tile wish list:

'Straight' cavern walls with different looks (let's say 2 more).
Inverse curved lake shores for creation of Islands.

Oh, by the way: You can see a sample screenshot of pfworks lake drawings in the Tiles System in the 'Making of thread ...' of the Cool Photos section:
www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?pid=15058#p15058
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#14616
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
I thought there was a Curved Passage Piece in one of the Wicked Additions sets... What we could use, actually, are floor tiles that fit inside and outside the curved walls of those pieces (and the Round Corner piece) so that we can have rooms that share those walls.

I think the reason everything is done to grid is that the original intent was to recreate dungeons from gridded maps. It is a failing of geometry that the distance between diagonal corners of a square is longer than the distance between neighboring corners of a square, making it very difficult to properly size a room that is canted at a forty-five degree angle. (Stupid geometry!)

However, as we are not necessarily dealing with dungeons that came from existing maps, and players don't have to draw maps of where they've been when they have it laid out on the table in front of them, I think a forty-five degree curved passage is a terrific idea.

Variant cavern walls and inverse curved lake shores are also great ideas.
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#14617
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
There is a curved passage1 piecd. I guess I didn't make myself clear. I was thinking of a much shorter version so that there is a quick/sharp turn. So it's still a 90 degree but it's a quick 90 in about half the distance of the existing piece.

I agree that the curved floor pieces might indeed be useful. Then again, in using the tilesystem software, I thought the same thing about some of the cavern pices. A few just stuck out too far and would have covered up the other piece I wanted to use.

I agree LoneStarr. That is what I was thinking, too. Variations on the "straight" wall.

Perhaps I'm just too tired. I'll have to think about what you mean (envision it) when you say "inverse curvature" for islands.
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#14618
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
Myself, I'd like to see some 6' curved walls - so you could do a completely round room if you wanted. I'd also like to see some 6' wall sections with a door in the middle, for that matter. Maybe a 4x4 floor tile (same dimensions as the water fountain, the pentagram and the lava pool in the Fantasy Floors set, but just "flat" tiles - or heck even with the celtic knotwork like the 4x6 and 6x6 tiles). Oh you know what else would be awesome? A Cavernous Staircase - a winding, twisting two or three piece set of natural-looking stone steps to put in your cavernous passages. That'd be awesome.
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#14619
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
I think many if people's request for curved walls, differing cavern walls, and so on can be answered if a set of "moveable walls" ala the river set was made.

I personally LOVE the idea of that U-shaped dead end, cavernous extensions, and so on that blend right into existing floors. Now extend that idea to moveable walls (what we call "flying walls" in the theatre industry) but based off of the "normal" stonework. Not being constrained by having it attached to a floor section makes it that much more modular.

Maybe another advanced builder kit containing:

Flying walls:
6" straight
6" curved
4" straight
4" curved
U-shaped
T-shaped
Prison cell? (i.e. barred)
Low dias with maybe 3 stairs

and so on.
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#14620
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
I think the movable walls from the CR&W set are going to help a lot in terms of having unique set-ups. One thing I like is having cave passages that are more typical of actual caves - that is, lots of really thin corridors which one needs to literally squeeze through. Short of a narrow cave passage set, I'm thinking the moveable walls will really add to that effect! Likewise, the not-so-orthogonal appearance of cave passages can be recreated with the flying walls... good job Stephan!

Other things I've thought of are the types of passages that are listed in the back of the 1st ed DMG random dungeon generation tables. With that, a whole lot of different setups can be recreated... (I'll have to pull out the DMG to figure out what hasn't been made yet...)
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#14621
Pieces we would like to see 8 Years, 4 Months ago  
The second thing I noticed was, that in order to be able ro created Islands in the Lake it would be nice to have lake shore piece with 'inverted' curvature.
If you mean a piece that gives you the ability to make L-shaped lakes (not shaped like "L" from the boards here, but an outside corner piece for lack of a better term), then I'm with you. Maybe that could be part of a cavernous water wicked additions set somewhere down the line.
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