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TOPIC: Rooms: Jungle
#14251
Rooms: Jungle 7 Years, 11 Months ago  
"Rooms" is an idea for expansions to the Fantasy line that enhance the existing pieces without creating an entirely new line. A "Rooms" set is not necessarily a room unto itself -- it might be just a few pieces that allow the builder to add pieces to other DF sets to evoke scenes and environments not previously available.

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Many dungeons and ancient ruins will have encroaching plant life. Some dungeons might have monsters that can command vines to attack trespassers.

To evoke a dungeon that is becoming overgrown, we might see walls and floors with vines growing on them. A Jungle set might have one corner and two straight 2" walls, and one or two floor tiles that have vines growing out of / on them. A 4" straight wall with vines might be nice, but might also drive production and purchase prices up.

A couple of standard red columns (or square columns that match the stonework of the walls) with vines would greatly enhance this set, as would a square entryway with vines (two vertical blocks of stone supporting another horizontal block).

And as a fun extra, include a vine-shrouded idol that looks Meso-American.

Thoughts? Additions? Existing products that fit the bill? Let me know.
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#14252
Rooms: Jungle 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
An Indiana Jones Temple of Horrible Death Traps set could be themed around a 'hot' climate idea but it might make it more difficult to use with the rest of the range?

A bit of 'touch up' painting and some vines stuck on and then laquered might be one way to get your wish?
I like your idea of an idol - this could be big for another dungeon dressings small boxed set idea.

How about an old school PHB (AD&D) statue with jems for eyes, holding a bowl of fiery coals?
Some guardian columns that look like they may be able to come to life?
etc

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#14253
Rooms: Jungle 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
jack -

Now THAT'S a great idea!
I love the idea of vine-riddled tiles, and perhaps a pair of pedestals, en-vined, that can be stacked for a column, or one solo with an idol on top of it.
VERSATILITY!

Put that together in an accessory set, and Stefan & Jeff could probably market it relatively cheaply without breaking their resources. I think the hardest part would be getting vines to stick to pre-cast DF MM parts, because if it requires brand-new molds for the jungled-up pieces, the price just went ballistic!

Ideas like this one are great, IF they can be done without major mold rebuilds. That's the only sticking point for any accessory set.

See ya!

Jim
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#14254
Rooms: Jungle 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
Check out the Confrontation line of miniatures for columns that could come to life. If you have the means, you could buy two packs, and paint them in different finishes to signify "still life" and "animated".

Okay, four vined pedestals would allow for four vined pedestals, two vined columns (stacked ), OR a large 2"x2" platform (that can be reached using Lower Stairs). Great idea, much better than a couple of square columns!

The square entryway piece I'd like to see as a new mold, partially because I just want to have more options for doors. However, the point about new molds is a good one. I am unclear, however, whether dressing up an existing piece would require an entirely new sculpt, or if a new mold can be created using a modified "master" piece. Can you take a wall piece, modify it, and use it to create a new mold, or is it a new sculpt for every variation? Is it possible to use a wall piece to cast the vines? (The wall piece would be the "outside" of the mold, if that makes sense.) Then the vines could be cast separately from the wall pieces, and glued in place when both are dry.

Let's brainstorm about ways to get around that. I'd love to hear from the modders about this.

The most obvious solution is for vines to be painted on the pieces at the factory. Since I've never heard anyone complain about the finish coming off their DF pieces (except for a gold pile), this seems to be ideal. My concern is that it won't look quite right -- we'll get color, but no texture. On floors that's actually an advantage (no wobbling minis), but might not look right on the already-highly-textured walls.

Vines could be "applied" to the pieces with a fine-tipped glue-gun-equivalent and painted before the pieces are sealed. That gives us color and texture, but might raise issues of fragility. The vines might be prone to chipping unless the material used remains rubbery after drying. On the other hand, how roughly do we really treat our DF?

Finally, wire. Wire vines could be applied to the pieces (using glue and very fine drill holes as anchors), then painted and sealed in place. The big problem I see there is making the pieces sufficiently uniform in appearance and quality.

Thoughts? Ideas? Patient explanations about how a new mold is created?
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#14255
Rooms: Jungle 7 Years, 10 Months ago  
jack -

YOU just gave ME an idea, and possibly a solution.
Fine-tipped-glue-gun-equivalent; why not USE the fine-tipped HOT GLUE gun yourself, run your vines on ANY DF piece, and then paint them? paint the vines a mix of Goblin Green and Chaos Black (or equivalents in whatever colors you want to use), and use a fine brush free-hand to do the leaves. On the floors, just run flat lines of the green mix for both vines and leaves.

TA-DA-A-A-A-A!

See? You're smarter than you give you credit for. You just needed to be prodded into it, that's all!

See ya!

Jim
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