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#13211
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Since Stefan let the cat out of the bag, regarding a DOE WE being available in November..

Here's my 2 cents of suggestions & guesses:

6" straight corridor - the puny 2" DOE straight necessitates this, esp. as the master maze corridoe system is based on a 6" unit.

6" straight wall - due to the geometric design of DOE, combined with the natural uneveness of hand cast resin pieces, these would be ace for making things look regular and even, esp. with the below 2 pieces:
6" x 4" floor
6" x 6" floor

staircase pieces - hopefuly without the closet door on one side, which is unecessary if you include the below:
descending stair floor tile

4" x 4" pentegram - it's the "den of evil", of course y ou have to have one. I would prefer a more intricate & arcane looking one, something along the lines of the one featured on the cover of the mass market paperback necronomicon.

2' x 4" sarcophagus

demon archway - once again, it's the "den of evil"

pillars - I would prefer something more blocky and square, that would fill most of a 1"x1" space, like the ones philip hendry made. Lots of adventures seems to feature pillars with evil designs.

altar - granted, many companies make these, but one would be an excellent complement to the DOE, esp. if it featured the same motifs.
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#13212
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Hmmm...

Here's what I'd put in the set if I had my druthers:

Stairs (natch)
Tentacle Floors (or maybe freestanding tentacles that can work with any set)
Curved walls/floors
Sacrifical altar
A wall section with a huge, bulging eye in the middle of it (yes, my dreams are dark)
Evil Pillars
Long walls
Big floors
A secret door
Torture equipment (freestanding so that it will work with Fantasy, too)


You know, as I type this, I realize that a lot of what I really want would fall into the category of a DoE accessories set. Unless Stefan decides to throw us a curve ball, though, I suspect that Doe WA will be similar in composition to the Fantasy WA.
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#13213
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
great ideas fellas.

my two bits:

-traps!!! evil traps!!!
-evil secret door (maybe even a trapped secret door!!!)

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
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#13214
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Yes, yes, an evil secret door trap !!

And stairs, and traps, and all of the above ...


Also :

- The existing doors are sort of "secret" by design so what about a Grand Evil Door that looks like some large Bronze Portal to keep the Evil in (or the Good out)?
- Smaller versions of above
- Evil Throne and Throne Room Accessories (braziers, free-standing colums, tapestries that could "hook" over the existing walls, etc...)
- Free-standing Gargoyle columns to match the DOE gargoyle details
- A Blood Fountain
- Floors with troughs (for Blood-flow, of course)
- Big floors with a special pattern (sure a pentagram or casting cirle, but even a simple decorative pattern to tie into the DOE floor pattern - with blood?)
- Wall pieces with shackles and chains
- Portcullis or Cell Door
- A transition piece to tie into Dungeon or Cavern set-ups (or even sci-fi)
- Double height walls to convey a Grand, Evil, Big Boss Room

Hmmm ... I could keep going, but lunch-break is over :)
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#13215
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
- The existing doors are sort of "secret" by design so what about a Grand Evil Door that looks like some large Bronze Portal to keep the Evil in (or the Good out)?
- Smaller versions of above
- Evil Throne and Throne Room Accessories (braziers, free-standing colums, tapestries that could "hook" over the existing walls, etc...)
- Free-standing Gargoyle columns to match the DOE gargoyle details
- A Blood Fountain
- Floors with troughs (for Blood-flow, of course)
- Big floors with a special pattern (sure a pentagram or casting cirle, but even a simple decorative pattern to tie into the DOE floor pattern - with blood?)
- Wall pieces with shackles and chains
- Portcullis or Cell Door
- A transition piece to tie into Dungeon or Cavern set-ups (or even sci-fi)
- Double height walls to convey a Grand, Evil, Big Boss Room

Hmmm ... I could keep going, but lunch-break is over :)

My take on Myrthe's ideas:

Grand Evil Door - Good idea, not sure how to accomplish that or the Double Height Walls - but worth Stefan taking a look at (maybe not for DoE WA ONE.
Throne and Accessories - Throne sounds great, but Grendel and a few others already have thrones; braziers - See DF Dungeon Accessories; Free-standing columns, you've already touched that below; Tapestries - see MY below comments.
Blood Fountain - Mage Knight has a fountain with blue plastic; re-tint the blue to red with GW Citadel Inks
BigFloors - YES! YES! OHHHH, YESSSSS!!! Splatter blood using red Tempera paints, easily washable after gaming!
Walls w/shackles & chains - not bad!
Portcullis/Cell Door - not sure, check the portcullis we already have; it might fit.
Transition Piece - More Big Floor ecstasy!!!

For a tapestry, try this:

1.) Find on-line a picture YOU want as a tapestry.
2.) Using either a color laser or a color ink-jet, print that picture at the size you want for your tapestry.
3.) Feed the page back into the printer and print the same picture, in the same place.

It SHOULD come out looking slightly wrinkled, as if it were fabric. If it does, cut it out, giving yourself enough extra paper to color it black and wrap around a 'curtain rod' of plastic sprue or bamboo, or round toothpicks, etc.
If the print ISN'T wrinkled enough, run it through another pass. Continue until it DOES look good.
The idea is to lay down multiple coats of the same colors in the same place on the paper; this should thicken the print until it works as cloth. When using the inkjet, take a minute to let it dry between passes, but MAKE SURE you put the page back in so it feeds the same way.

Let me know how it turns out - by posting here, NOT in person (I'm too young to die!).
In fact, I'm going to try it tonight or tomorrow night, as soon as I find a design I want.

See ya!

Jim
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#13216
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
For tapestries, check your picture editing software to see if it has a texture that simulates fabric. I had one of those once, and it was great for simulating tapestries and carpets on paper.

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I'm a little confused. I thought Den of Evil was a limited run -- has it been upgraded to a continuing line?

If so, then don't forget that a bunch of Wicked Additions might just be a repeat of the Fantasy sets with the new texture.

If not, then why is a limited run being supported with an expansion set whose appeal/salability is already limited to those who own DoE sets?
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#13217
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Well, there are still DOE sets available.
And with 1500 sets having been produced, there certainly is the potential to sell several WE sets. Never mind that fans have been clamoring for a DOE WE since it was announced.
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#13218
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Okay...I somehow missed the post where Stefan said something about DOE WE. The Search tool wasn't as helpful as I'd like (or my ability to use it). Could someone please post a link to the thread where this was mentioned? Thanks!
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#13219
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Hmm... I can't remember where it was - but it was in response to my question about if they we're going to be bringing anything new to GenCon SoCal... I'll try to look for it...
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#13220
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 5 Months ago  
Ok, found the thread (sorry, I forgot to look until I saw you bring it up again in the CL thread)...

www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=1084&p=3

My question is post #56 and Jeff's response on #59...
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#13221
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Thank you, Fu-Man Chu.
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#13222
Den of Evil Wicked Additions rampant speculation thread.... 8 Years, 5 Months ago  
A cave piece that is the outside of a tomb that leads into a Den of Evil crypt would be OUTSTANDING! It would also serve as a really cool way to connect two unrelated sets. Think about it. That would be awesome!

Evil altar is a gimme.
Blood fountain would be cool.
Gargoyles would be very logical and fitting.
Big floor piece would be cool.
Dont need traps at all.
Crypt pieces are also a gimme.

And I know it has been asked before, but DF really needs to sell DoE floor and wall pieces individually. They wouldnt be breaking their limited edition deal as the set would have pieces you couldnt buy individually. *sigh*

And all hail the DoE cave piece! Anyone...? hello...?
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