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#6623
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Some of these guys are using "hydrostone" which is supposed to be a lightweight sort of concrete that can withstand up to 2500 psi of "crushing pressure"... yeah, right.

I bought some hydrostone stuff and it chipped easier than Tiger Woods on a flood-lit golf course with laser guided balls into a 4' wide hole.
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#6624
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
LOL, that easy huh? I have a Dock made of that stuff and it cracked in half when I looked at is wrong. It took the clue ok though....
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#6625
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Sounds like lightweight Hydrocal. It is ok for making terrain, but not very good for pieces that need to take wear and tear. It is lighter and more resilant than plaster, but no were near as resin.
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#6626
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Is resin more expensive? I know it is harder to workwith....
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#6627
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Hey Big Set Ups Are Good Practice... And Just Plain Fun... Kinda' Like Building a Puzzle... And It's Nice For Us as Forum Rats to See what all each of us has to Work with in the Dungeon Building Arena... (Especially the Extra Bits from Other Companies, and How they Integrate with DF)...
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#6628
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Sounds like lightweight Hydrocal. It is ok for making terrain, but not very good for pieces that need to take wear and tear. It is lighter and more resilant than plaster, but no were near as resin.

Having experienced a lot of resin second-hand I can tell you it can be a royal bitch to deal with.
Never use two different colors of resin in the same mold; that can be a royal pain.
I know even companies like Armorcast and Ainsty have their challenges with the resin.
Notice most of the big companies in the industry avoid it like the Plague.

As far as total expenses, resin is more expensive.
Not because of the resin itself, but because resin blows molds.
This is more due to the higher temperature of the resin than anything else.
Replacing molds not designed to be used with resin or ones that are less durable because of resin use can be quite taxing on the wallet.
I am not sure the lower weight is worth the constant worry of blowing a mold.

I agree with brvheart about the Hydrocal and its chippiness.

It is kind of funny hearing y'all talk about about Hydrocal out of the blue.
I talked to a rep from Woodland Scenics at a train con about four years ago and mentioned that wargamers I was involved with were trying out their plaster.
He brightened and asked about the results.
I immediately popped his bubble and said it was horrible for wargaming.
I told him it could not stand up to the use that wargamers were putting it through.
I asked if there was any way to have Woodland Scenics improve the stength of the plaster without compromising the light weight.
He did not think so, but said he would forward on the concern.
I do not know what happened.

Personally, I use fine-grain, dental-quality plaster.
Heavy, yes; but looks great painted.
I mostly use the plaster to make rocks and faces using the Woodland Scenics rock molds.
Combining several castings and a styroform core creates interesting hills, buttes and ridges to fight on and around.

Sorry, not a Hirst fan - I get enough mess making my rocks, let alone more to make buildings.
I use architectural foam core to make buildings.
Then again, I do not build anything to an Egyptian motiff which I could imagine to be quite difficult with foam core.
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#6629
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I think another PITA about hydrocal and the like is the weight as you mention. The pieces just turn out too damned heavy for my taste.
Resin, styrofoam, balsa, foam core--all easy to transport/move/store.
Everything has its pros and cons though, no?

I feel your pain regarding resin. Last year I was making several resin casts of hand-sculpted miniatures I made and I experimented with a couple of different kinds of resin, all with varying degrees of results. Some great, some still give me nightmares. I found a great source for flexible resin however... I wound up making some really cool Gelatinous Cubes and other jelly-type creatures that are (after a year) still holding up really well.
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#6630
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
I've also seen some terrain with a strong dark yellowish foam that was definitly a mold. They look great and I even have a few of them be they were VERY expensive so it must be hard to work with them also...
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#6631
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Oh yeah... I think I know what you're referring to. If it's the stuff I'm thinking of, Vatican Enterprises makes some nice buildings from that material. I think--and I might be way off the mark here--that Hudson & Allen buildings are also made of that material. Not sure what it is exactly but it does make me think it's some sort of injection foam type stuff that is shot into molds.

Maybe somebody else here knows what it's called.
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#6632
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
It is just very expensive. I bought a small keep once. It was very nice in that is had a central tower that was maybe 30'X30' in side with 5' thick walls, it has buttruses going up to it and a small staircase going to a nice wooden door. There is a smaller stairway tower that goes up about 15' higher than the larger one right next to it. Both the towers have battlements and wooden trap doors on the roof along with some flag stone on the largerone and wood planking on the sencond. Lots of detail. Not painted and raw the towerkeep cost 50$........Oye... I did get around to painting it if anyone wants to see a pic.
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#6633
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Yeah, I'd love to see a pic. That's what this forum is for so go for it.
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#6634
Thor & MrMorden's Monster Dungeon 9 Years, 3 Months ago  
Sorry, I stand corrected here RabidFox, I meant Dental Plaster not resin. My mistake on that one. Yes, I do the same with Woodland Scenics. I about the same opinion that I have enough problems trying to make rocks.
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