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#6194
Force-field door 9 Years, 1 Month ago  
This goes back aways but...



Still, I do wish Beta were slightly different. Looking back at the Fantasy sets, I think the SF sets really need a 3-square wall -- preferably one that is basic, and one unique (a la the mermaid fountain or demon arch, something with a viewscreen on it or engines or maintenance hatches or consoles etc.) That would make it easier to use the big floors (since the starter set doesn't give us much in the way of regular walls) and also, for future reference, possible to make bigger rooms (with more variety) more easily.

Totally Agree, I want some long wall sections, so I can get variety, I would love one with a view screen/"window" or a computer monitor/bank built in.

Man the View screen idea has me thinking, put in a black star field background, and then a thin slot, so you could print out different things on paper or card stock and slide them into it to change the view... that would be cool in my mind.





Additionally, how did you think they kept the atmosphere in those flight decks on the two Death Stars except by means of a force field?
Otherwise, the flight decks would have had to be evacuted every time a fighter or shuttle came on board because the atmosphere would have had to be pumped out to create a vacuum.


Maybe L, you need to go back and watch the movies again.
<grin & chuckle>

Might take your own advice, they quit plainly say "lower the [I]magnetic shield[/]i" not [I]force field[/I[ when the Falcon comes in for docking at the Death Star one... The Trash compactor is also magnetically sealed which is what causes the Blaster bolt to ricochet... not a "Force Field", they use magnetic shields in the Dark Forces games, too.

But all of those same basic designs and concepts can be found in Star Trek, and Soooo many other Sci-fi movies and games, many have hover bikes, or shields...

Are they built on the same technology who knows as L said it is just part of the background you take as being in the galaxy a long time ago and far far away.
... Because from the SW movies since you are using it, has multiple types of shields, like Ray Shields (the shaft is ray shielded, so you will have to use proton torpedoes�), and Particle Shields, and Deflector Shields (“switch you deflectors double front�, “Sir they have knocked out our forward deflector shield� non are specifically named "force fields" the only one shows up in E1-TPM and Obi is trapped behind one while Maul and Qui-Gon fight.

Star trek also just says shields in the beginning then goes into navigational (they are mentioned in a ST:NG where a ships weapon that is threatening them, won’t even penetrate our navigation shields). Star Trek makes more mention of Force Fields than SW ever does.
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#6195
Force-field door 9 Years, 1 Month ago  
This has gotten all bizarre.

Have any of you studied physics?
What by the laws of physics is a force field?
It is a finite area in some polygon shape in which force (whether physical or energy) in a non-material form is used to prevent entrance or exit of objects and/or forces.
In otherwords, every shield, barrier, etc. minus the metal doors you all have spoken of IS a force field.
The doors y'all have mentioned would be referred correctly to as "hatches" since they are on space-going vessels.

jkratzer (Mad Yank, huh?), you have a point about having fun and suspending disbelief.
I do not have the normal view of gaming product though, jkratzer.
I was in the industry so I also look at market issues involved in the product that contribute to the survival and/or death of said product.
With the constant use of WOTC's SW figures, it looks like an attempt on DF's part to appeal to WOTC's master Hasbro to me which I do not necessarily feel is a good thing for the survival of MM.

I know FASA's corporate history pretty well and know the BT area of the company even better.
I have been playing FASA games, especially BT and then BTr, from 1987 until the very end in 2001 and on to today.
I had developed a pretty decent relationship with Sam Lewis at FASA back in the early '90s before he left FASA for Kesmai.
Through him I had also developed working relationships with a few others at FASA as well so I was able to stay in touch with what was going on at FASA even when I worked for competitors in the industry.

Bryan Nystul, the last BT developer, was the most pig-headed person I knew to date and I had to deal with him at FASA.
UGH!!
His self-applied nickname of the "MechMaster" left no question as to what is attitude toward combined arms was, does it?
He felt there was no use for AeroTech, BattleSpace or BattleTroops in the market policies of BT.
He only bowed to great pressure from above him in the company to do anything with any of these products and he did as little as possible.
He continued to stand by his guns despite the success of Vor and how that success could be cross-applied to the possible reintroduction of BattleTroops into the market.

As far as FASA's demise is concerned, Mort Weisman, Jordan's dad, was tired.
FASA was his second or third career that he had started at the behest of Jordan and his friend Ross Babcock.
After being FASA's CEO for 20 years, he decided enough was enough.
Jordan & Ross originally needed his good credit and business acumen so they could create a company to build up the capital necessary to get into the computer gaming industry so they could try out their 3-D gaming ideas they had, which eventually were incorporated into the product of their company, Virtual World Entertainment, before they sold it to Roy Disney, Walt's nephew I believe, and his company Shamrock Enterprises.

Jordan & Ross were long gone from FASA by 2000.
Ross had gone with FASA Interactive when MS bought it and is still there today.
Jordan had gone off and had already had success with his brainchild company, WizKids.
Last year he sold off the company to Topps for a good bit of money, but in the process creating all sorts of problems for WK and its stable of games.
Without them there at FASA, Mort Weisman had no real motivation to stay at FASA.
Without Mort, there was no FASA.
That is all.

I too, had heard of FASA financial problems, but the rumors I heard were surrounding Bryan Nystul and possible wrongful financial behavior on his part.
Beyond those simple comments, I will not continue.
I too, do not want to have to hire a lawyer.

Back to the subject at hand.
There are other successful games that DF could be using in their SF MM displays.
For the European gamers, they could use GZG's Stargrunt figures as just one possibility.
As far as in the States, they could be using several different companies' figures including WK/Topps, Mammoth Minis and several others.
The consistent and constant use of WOTC's SW figures is annoying and suspect.

I believe that was my original contention point.
I saw the force field door as a bid to create more SW interest in the pieces which I see as a troubling portent.
L disagreed and so we began this lovely spin.

At this point I will just back out of the discussion because we are coming at it from two completely separate directions and backgrounds, and we are getting no where useful.
In other words, I am simply tired and will conceed so as to freeze the point.
Okay?
Shoot back to your heart's content though.
I will try to refrain from responding further.
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#6196
Force-field door 9 Years, 1 Month ago  
BTW, ever read the Honor Harrington series? Now THERE is great military SF!

I could never find the first three books in the series so I did not get into it.

I feel the master of military SF is David Drake with Elizabeth Moon as a close second.
Drake was in 'Nam with the Black Horse.
Moon is a former Marine.

After those two I really like these five authors:
Chris Bunch (Army Ranger & Airborne 'Nam vet)
Allan Cole (former Spook, but he writes well)
David Sherman (former marine)
Dan Cole (retired from the Army at Sergeant-Major)
Rick Shelley (another army vet)

The best military SF authors in my opinion have been the ones that have experienced incoming fire.
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#6197
Force-field door 9 Years, 1 Month ago  
Moon's first three Harrington books are now available for free to read at the Bean Books library online. Baen.com iirc. Yup, that's the spot ( checked it in another window ) Looks like a half dozen or so of the harrington books are available in HTML format gratis.

Good reads, fun, just don't take em too seriously.
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#6198
Force-field door 9 Years, 1 Month ago  
At this point I will just back out of the discussion because we are coming at it from two completely separate directions and backgrounds, and we are getting no where useful.
In other words, I am simply tired and will conceed so as to freeze the point.
Okay?
Shoot back to your heart's content though.
I will try to refrain from responding further.


Well, I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. You're probably right, we're debating two separate fields -- you're talking about physics and I'm talking about mimetic ontology.

No point in saying anything else if you're done, though.

That was fun.
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#6199
Force-field door 9 Years, 1 Month ago  
Moon's first three Harrington books are now available for free to read at the Bean Books library online. Baen.com iirc. Yup, that's the spot ( checked it in another window ) Looks like a half dozen or so of the harrington books are available in HTML format gratis.

Good reads, fun, just don't take em too seriously.


Thank you for the referral, but I thought David Weber wrote the Honor Harrington series?
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#6200
Force-field door 9 Years, 1 Month ago  
BTW, ever read the Honor Harrington series? Now THERE is great military SF!

I could never find the first three books in the series so I did not get into it.

I feel the master of military SF is David Drake with Elizabeth Moon as a close second.
Drake was in 'Nam with the Black Horse.
Moon is a former Marine.

After those two I really like these five authors:
Chris Bunch (Army Ranger & Airborne 'Nam vet)
Allan Cole (former Spook, but he writes well)
David Sherman (former marine)
Dan Cole (retired from the Army at Sergeant-Major)
Rick Shelley (another army vet)

The best military SF authors in my opinion have been the ones that have experienced incoming fire.


Another author that does some good Sci-Fi and has a military back ground is William C. Dietz. His Legion of the Damned series is a pretty good read. According to his bio he was a Navy and Marine Corp Medic.
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#6201
Force-field door 9 Years, 1 Month ago  
You are of course right, Weber, having read both authors I had a momentary case of synaptic dyslexia...< grin >
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#6202
Force-field door 9 Years ago  
Ok... Been a Bit since I've Checked the Boards, and a lot has transpired, most of which is not worth re-hashing, since everyone is Apparently Comfy with the Results...

Rabid Fox,

Why On this Green Earth would You Bother Giving me Grief about Frequent Misspellings? I do make an Effort to Correct my Spelling, but I Do Fall short of Perfection, And recognize that without the least bit of Guilt... But We were talking about Rather SW was "The" Focus of DF, and rather they were making Force Field Doors just to appease SW Fans... My Points had Nothing to do with the History of FASA, or any other Company. I Appreciate that you have what appears to be a Vast Working Knowledge of the People behind these Histories, And it is always valuable to Hear New Information. all I was doing Mentioning some Examples of Games which may have use of Forcefields, I Never Said that ALL Sci-Fi needs Force Field doors. as to the Specific Issue of Spelling Errors, By the Tree, look through these Posts and you will Find them to be Numerous and without Comment overall... And there are some Obviously Intelligent folks Posting... In Direct Answer, there are some words such as "Kewl" which I very Deliberately misspell for effect... At other times it may be a matter simply of the fact that I am Doing many things at once while Posting here, and my two overworked Typing Fingers miss a Key (I Dare you or anyone to Find an Example of my having Said I was a Brilliant Typist...<Grin>....)... But if the Most Notable Contribution I have to offer to this Group in your Estimations are my Flawed Spelling, Well I really do not Know what to say to you... Except that I am a Firm Subscriber to the Idea that there are Some things which ARE important, and there are others which are less so, And Context is Everything, So if you Lay awake Nights concerned for my Capacity to Survive in the Cold Harsh World of Grammer Police, I must simply reply that you need not be over concerned, I Do pretty well all in all...<Smirk>...
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#6203
Force-field door 9 Years ago  
Ok... Been a Bit since I've Checked the Boards, and a lot has transpired, most of which is not worth re-hashing, since everyone is Apparently Comfy with the Results...

Rabid Fox,

Why On this Green Earth would You Bother Giving me Grief about Frequent Misspellings? I do make an Effort to Correct my Spelling, but I Do Fall short of Perfection, And recognize that without the least bit of Guilt... But We were talking about Rather SW was "The" Focus of DF, and rather they were making Force Field Doors just to appease SW Fans... My Points had Nothing to do with the History of FASA, or any other Company. I Appreciate that you have what appears to be a Vast Working Knowledge of the People behind these Histories, And it is always valuable to Hear New Information. all I was doing Mentioning some Examples of Games which may have use of Forcefields, I Never Said that ALL Sci-Fi needs Force Field doors. as to the Specific Issue of Spelling Errors, By the Tree, look through these Posts and you will Find them to be Numerous and without Comment overall... And there are some Obviously Intelligent folks Posting... In Direct Answer, there are some words such as "Kewl" which I very Deliberately misspell for effect... At other times it may be a matter simply of the fact that I am Doing many things at once while Posting here, and my two overworked Typing Fingers miss a Key (I Dare you or anyone to Find an Example of my having Said I was a Brilliant Typist...<Grin>....)... But if the Most Notable Contribution I have to offer to this Group in your Estimations are my Flawed Spelling, Well I really do not Know what to say to you... Except that I am a Firm Subscriber to the Idea that there are Some things which ARE important, and there are others which are less so, And Context is Everything, So if you Lay awake Nights concerned for my Capacity to Survive in the Cold Harsh World of Grammer Police, I must simply reply that you need not be over concerned, I Do pretty well all in all...<Smirk>...


Grief? Come one now MLV, you have seen me give GRIEF! Yes?
The whines about the Map Maker program come to mind quickly, yes?
I just said that I think you mis-spell on purpose for comic effect. Yes?
I do think you contribute far more than comic relief on these forums.
No, I do not stay awake at night about yours or much of anyone else's quirks.
Have a great weekend!
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#6204
Force-field door 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Hey L. Great door. What did you use? I like the idea of getting the players to shut it down. Could you make something like that work in the SW Skirmish? Having it as a DR of 10 say to shoot through it. Maybe even take 10 dammage to barge your way through?
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#6205
Force-field door 8 Years, 11 Months ago  
Thanks -- I just took a transparency and printed out a bunch of red and green squares. I do want to use it for SWM, I like the idea of giving it a defense rating and having people shoot past it.

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