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#4535
Cavern inspirations 9 Years, 7 Months ago  
With my HA stuff, I've always drawn the line -- I just can't get into making my own molds, however much time it might eventually save me.

Some molds can be frustrating, only giving you a quarter of a column or arch, so you need to cast FOUR times for just one element -- heaven forbid you want ten of that element....

But things like floors -- the cracked floor mold gives you like 10 squares in one cast, right? That's quite a lot. I usually cast one mold in about 20 minutes, so if I pop a movie on I can cast probably six or seven times by the time it's over. With LOTR, I can cast nine or ten! ;)

Even though I really hate casting, the floors are easy to accumulate. One other trick: whatever you're planning on building, always cast some of the most-used bricks at the same time -- even if you aren't going to need them. Next thing you know, you've got lots of bricks lying aroudn for easy access when you want them. (though storage gets to be an issue -- loose bricks take up a lot of room)

Granted, making your own floor mold would not onyl save casting time it would also save assembly time, but eh -- it's not that time-consuming or difficult, anyway, and pouring liquid rubber, that just seems like a whole new level of dedication....

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#4536
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Willypold,

Guess I Sounded Kinda' Pushy there... Did not mean to I Just Get Excited easily...<Smirk>... Yes I am Very Curious about the Edges... (If that is what you are referring to in terms of Being Stackable?)...
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#4537
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The liquid rubber thing... Always sounded like a rather messy affair...

Making a mold for the floors would also produce the same floor over and over, which I think would be a little boring after a while. And I _like_ gluing the pieces together, making patterns with the cracks and such...

Three castings of the floor mold will get me 30 full tiles and enough half tiles to make the extra two I need for two floor sections. The problem area is the fieldstone wall mold, as the piece I use most of - the 1/2 inch block - is cast only twice with each casting. Each corner post extending in two directions need three of these, and I seem never to be able to cast them properly. Instead I've started to saw off the good end of any of the longer pieces with one badly formed end.

So far I've only bought two molds, the fieldstone walls and the cracked one-inch floors. Next in line will be the straight wall blocks and a couple of different floor designs. Anything else you recommend?
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#4538
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MLV: No problems! :D

Stackable, yes. Think of them as little square boxes with the same outside dimensions. As long as there is support on at least three sides you can safely stack them, but to get to any height you need support all around. The Wicked Additions columns placed across the intersection of up to four pieces will give you this stable footing at all four corners. When you leave a level you just remove or add the appropriate sections. It's amazingly stable - as long as you avoid any sidesweeps, of course! The undersides are perfectly flat and the tops of the walls and the columns are at the same height. If you remember the first columns I made, these can of course also be used - and easily produced en masse!
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#4539
Cavern inspirations 9 Years, 7 Months ago  
Wow... You Meant Litteraly One Whole Dungeon Level Atop another... I Thought you were Talking about Stacking Individual Floor Pieces Like the Sci-Fi Corners on top of eachother to create platforms, stages, Wide Steps etc... As far as "Terraced" looks Go, I have of Course done that... And Am Looking forward to Building some Small 1x1 Frames to Build interior Second Levels like the Kewl Dwarven Picnic Area of Law's... But I have not attempted to Actually Build "Up" a Dungeon layer by Layer... Sounds Like a Much more Possible Plan if you are Casting your own Extra Bits... (I Have a fair amount of DF, but I Doubt I could Build Multiple Levels of Dungeon at once...<Grin>...)
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#4540
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ONE extra level? Why not several? :D

Just to get a taste of what can be done...

(It is merely the lack of enough pieces that prevent me from going higher at the moment...)
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#4541
Cavern inspirations 9 Years, 7 Months ago  
Well, browsing through the catalogue, all the accessory type stuff seems very useful. The fieldstone molds work together well, so anything with them will increase your options (round tower elements etc)

But I have to say, I really love the bell tower mold. Some regal arches and so forth, fantastic stuff. Also of course the various gothic dungeon accessory molds for elaborate columns and decorative elements.


Also -- the wood plank mold. Might seem silly, since balsa wood is simple enough, but it gives you some real useful stuff. You can quickly put together a whole wooden floor section easily, to drop in place over hte DF floors for variety. Also there are pieces to instantly make a wooden staircase, or tables and chairs, or bookshelves. Quasi-instant wooden furniture -- not bad.

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#4542
Cavern inspirations 9 Years, 7 Months ago  
Willypold,

I Guess you Could Go Several Levels... But Geesh what a Mess if one of MY Bumbling Players Was Sitting at your Table...<Sheepish Grin>... Those 4x4 Floors really are Quite Pretty, and I Do see what you Mean about being able to use Less of your Precious Pillars for support... Though I Suppose you Could even Just Cast some Square Support Columns if You Wanted...?

Law,

There is little doubt that in the "Right" Hands the HA could work Miracles, Especially in terms of Working Various Elements together... Wood Floors with Stone Walls for Instance?
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#4543
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MLW:

For stacking sections I will go back to the first thing I did - columns made of wood dowel, produced in quantity!

Right now I have four painted sections, two basecoated and one assembled, with enough floortiles for two more...

A new type of challenge - how many different configurations can you have with 0-4 walls, with or without door openings? I counted 23 with the first one having no walls and the last one four walls without doors (to be used as a pit in multilevel set-ups). Yes, I intend to make one of each... :D

L:

What does the surface look like on the basic wall blocks (I'm not talking about the fieldstone variety, but the plain stuff)? I plan on getting one of those molds next, but want to know if the stones have enough surface character or not to make them worthwhile as wall sections...

Coming up is using more different materials and surface structures.
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#4544
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The surface structure is very detailed, very bumpy. If you look at my Voidgamer pics (I can post the link again if you need it) you can see lots of closeups. (the link is under the "How versatile is this stuff?" thread by Darkfather)

The only problem is, it doesn't match up with the DF style at all. Actually, the main problem is that the other design elements don't work, they require higher walls. If I had fieldstone molds, I could gradually raise the fieldstone wall, to transition into higher walls and make it work, with any kind of block. The problem with the transition isn't the style of block, it's the sudden leap in height.

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#4545
Cavern inspirations 9 Years, 7 Months ago  
Oh L you may know this... your in the "area", i have been trying to find a "Local" supplier for Silcon Rubber. Getting into it i don't want to mail order, i want to just buy a little bit to try it and if i like it then i will order a bunch to work with but as of now i don't want to splurg know a Mass area to buy any casting rubber?
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#4546
Cavern inspirations 9 Years, 7 Months ago  
Willypold,

So I Suppose that Includes Walls on Opposite Sides with Open Ends which could be used to make wide Corridors Right...? (Might Need a Few of Those)...
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