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#44400
Some new painted Reaper minis 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
I have gotten the painting bug lately, but I had a problem -- when I moved I decided against bringing my old paints with me. It had been so long since I had any time to paint, and it didn't look like that was going to change, so.... to make the move SLIGHTLY easier, I left the paints behind.

But now I wanted some new minis. So I bit the bullet, picked up some Citadel paints, and went to work. Problem 2: I've never painted with just Citadel paints before. I used to use regular old acrylics, the same ones I use when I paint on canvas, with only occasional highlights done with gamer paints.

So I hope people enjoy these -- a dwarf miner, a wizard, and an orc mama. (I also painted her kids -- I love this Reaper set, it's great for either a multi-cultural tavern encounter, or a really amusing dungeon ambush -- players hear orc grunting, kick down door, only to get yelled at by exhausted tribal matriarch....)








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#44401
Re:Some new painted Reaper minis 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
These look great! Do you find that painting with acrylics would have resulted in a better paint job?
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#44406
Re:Some new painted Reaper minis 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
Thanks!

No, in fact in some ways I prefer the effect I get with the Citadel paints. I like the matte look, and the result looks more like figures that just ARE this color as opposed to painted this way.

But there are some effects that are more difficult with these paints, and I still haven't gotten the hang of washes. Also, after a decade of almost never priming any of my minis, I'm wondering if maybe the reason I've been getting away with it is because of the paint I've been using -- because these guys are having paint rubbed off certain surfaces on a regular basis. These pics already show some flaws, and this was after several rounds of small corrections. So....

All in all, though, I like it. I'm certainly going to be painting a handful of new minis, when I can find the time, now that I have seen what I can do with the Citadels...
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Re:Some new painted Reaper minis 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
Undercoat is very important , always give it a good one or all your hard work giving it a nice scheme wont last very long.
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#44409
Re:Some new painted Reaper minis 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
First, both paints LAW is describing ARE acrylics. CITADEL is also acrylics in a more liquid form then what artists use to paint canvas (a sort of paste-form in a tube). Second, painting with a more liquidy form of acrylics (Citadel, Vallejo, Reaper & the likes...) is more appropriate to painting miniatures as you have much finer control over the paint for painting such tiny features (washes, highlights...). Third, using a primer first on minis is a must, so that the paint attaches to the minis. Last, you should put at least 2 coats of spray Varnish if the minis are to see any kind of gaming action, if you do not want the paint job to disappear.
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#44412
Re:Some new painted Reaper minis 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
All good points. Just to clarify...

biowizard wrote:
First, both paints LAW is describing ARE acrylics. CITADEL is also acrylics in a more liquid form then what artists use to paint canvas (a sort of paste-form in a tube).

True. I say "acrylics" just as shorthand -- I have always used Golden Fluid acrylics, which are not quite the tube-paste that people normally think of for canvas painting, but definitely thicker (and glossier) than gamer paints.

I fell into the (bad) habit of distinguishing between "acrylics" and "gamer" paints because of the gaming industry's fear of accurate paint labels. I've never liked talking about "scab red" and "mithril silver" and "enchanted blue." Of course it is accurate to call Citadel et al. "acrylics" -- but since it's accurate to say "quinacridone red" and "dioxazine purple" I set up a false dichotomy in my mind between "what they're actually called" and "what gamers call them." So -- long story short (too late!) I tend to think of "acrylics" as refering to canvas paint.


biowizard wrote:
Second, painting with a more liquidy form of acrylics (Citadel, Vallejo, Reaper & the likes...) is more appropriate to painting miniatures as you have much finer control over the paint for painting such tiny features (washes, highlights...). [/quote]

There I disagree with you. It really depends on what you are used to. Perhaps the learning curve with gamer paints is less steep, but I've been able to get a decent amount of control over small details with the stuff I'd been using. It's more about your brushwork and not applying too much paint than it is about the actual paint you use.

I'd say it's probably more accurate to say it might be EASIER for some people to paint minis with the gamer paints, not more apporpriate. You can definitely get the same results with both.

biowizard wrote:
Third, using a primer first on minis is a must, so that the paint attaches to the minis. Last, you should put at least 2 coats of spray Varnish if the minis are to see any kind of gaming action, if you do not want the paint job to disappear.
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I agree -- I had just been pointing out that I had never used primer (and probably used a varnish only 75% of the time) and never had a problem before. It's indisputable that the tin composition of fantasy minis is not going to hold paint well, and primer is needed to fix that, so I'm not denying that. I'm just reporting my own anecdotal evidence that wear was never an issue for me before, but it really has been with the all-Citadel minis.

If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the Golden paints I was using required more coats to achieve the effects I've been getting with Citadels, so there was just more paint on the mini before. That would greatly slow down wear, I expect.

Anyhoo -- hope I don't come across as hostile or defensive -- your points, as I said, are all valid. Just wanted to clarify my own hastily scrawled and hence ambiguous reply to the original question.

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#44414
Re:Some new painted Reaper minis 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
...point taken. You indeed can do something beautiful with any paint, provided you have the talent. I saw indeed many masterpieces on the Coolminiornot web site that were done using only oil paint that I can only dream of reproducing. My comment was merely for suggesting to dndgamer who is starting to learn about painting to stick with traditional "gaming" paint for ease of learning. I liked all your painted minis and accessories by the way, whatever the method used.
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#44428
Re:Some new painted Reaper minis 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
A Double YOU ROCK THE FREE WORLD!!!
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