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#41784
Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
I recently auctioned a few painted Cadian Shock Troopers from eBay and wanted to know how my new troopers look in battle. So I made a quick setup to illustrate that matter. It's kind of a "what would happen when a platoon of soldiers battle 2 Balrogs in an ruined building?" kind of setup. You know, a havoc-ish one. ;)











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#41788
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Very cool! Did you paint the balrogs or were they pre painted? and who made them?
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#41791
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Another sweet setup! Love it!
I am waiting for the inevitble battle of Cadians vs Korps. That could be fun to see a balrog or two in there as well.
Is that the electronic balrog from ToyBiz?
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#41792
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Thank you Shadbelly! :)
The Balrogs are from Games Workshop. These two are OOP but the new one is also very cool. The two shown above were birthday gifts from my players two years in a row and were painted by a friend of mine both times as part of the gift.
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#41794
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Kronos how the hell you make these photos? :)
the colors and resolution of your setups are always fantastic,I'm not speaking about your paint job that it's also great, but I mean also how look the standard Dwarven Forge stuff.. which camera you use? which settings? you adjust also the photo with photoshop? you use special lights?
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#41795
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Thank you Arcarius2001! :)

I am waiting for the inevitble battle of Cadians vs Korps
That is indeed inevitable. ;) I'm thinking of something like a really epic setup with four factions: Death Korps, Cadians, Tau and Demons. I'm thinking something like 100 Miniatures and a hell of a lot of Dwarfen Forge. This will happen somewhere in September or October, I'm painting a lot of demons right now and a lot of new Death Korps and Tau are coming my way in the next two month. :)

Is that the electronic balrog from ToyBiz?
No, I actually never really liked this one. I got a third really HUGE Balrog (about 2,5 times as big as the ones above) but that one doesn't come into play very often because of its extreme challenge rating.
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#41796
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Thank you Endar! :)

Kronos how the hell you make these photos? :)
the colors and resolution of your setups are always fantastic,I'm not speaking about your paint job that it's also great, but I mean also how look the standard Dwarven Forge stuff..

Thank you very much! :) I have a little merit when it comes to making these shots: I'm actually a semi-professional photographer. ;)

which camera you use?
Depends on how lazy I am. Normally I work with a Canon 5d Mark II. But that one is always in my safe with my lenses and so sometimes I just use my EOS Rebel XSi which is always nearby.

which settings?
That's really hard to say. I have never used the automatic settings of a camera, I always use the manual mode for full control. And these settings always change with the light and angle of the shot.

you adjust also the photo with photoshop?
I shoot in RAW. The files are processed with Digital Photo Professional. Then I do a quick routine in Photoshop to enhance the cinematic feeling of each image.

you use special lights?
I experiment a lot with lighting for tabletop photography (that comes with the territory) and lately (for about a year) I'm back on simply using a Speedlite 430EX II on top of the cam (with a diffuser) with the light bounced back from the ceiling.


I hope that was helpful. Please note that you don't need all this equipment for creating these images, I simply use it because I have it. I'm a people photographer with the focus on glamour, expressive and emotive art, so I have a lot of stuff to work with. But you can archive nearly the same images with a point-and-shoot cam and a little bit experience with Photoshop. It's not the equipment that makes the image, it's the photographer. Experience gets the results, not the tools you use.

(I really hope this does not sound too schoolmasterly, it's difficult for me not to get excited when I talk about photography and since I'm German there's always the language barrier)
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#41800
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
most important in photography of DF is not to use a flash from your camera...I use my iPhone for all my shots now and it's fine as long as there is a light source coming from above at an angle...Many here on our site take outstanding Photos, everything Kronos sais is true, it's the photographer not the equipment...good equipment helps, of course:)

btw, Great Setup as usual Kronos, thanks for posting and as usual for the great and patient explanations of everything!
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#41806
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
thanks Kronos,
hmm from what I understood for me it's probably too complicated or long to obtain similar result finding the correct steps by myself..

but just some other questions...

the light on your camera, it's a continuous light correct? because one of the few things I learned is that, as say also Stefan, I have to avoid the Flash.

the Raw format it's really important? if I use the max resolution Jpeg it's completely different or the difference it's not so critical?

what are the most common/important controls that you use in photoshop?
maybe could you post (if it's possible and you have time), one of these photos before photoshop? in this way I can distinguish/understand which goal I should have with the camera, and what I have to do with photoshop.

sorry, maybe too many questions :-D
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#41819
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
Thank you Stefan! I'm always happy to share. :)

the light on your camera, it's a continuous light correct? because one of the few things I learned is that, as say also Stefan, I have to avoid the Flash.
I never use continuous light, I use a flash mounted on the cam and aimed at the ceiling. This way the light bounces back from the ceiling towards the table. This technique is very good for getting a well lit and not too bright image.


the Raw format it's really important? if I use the max resolution Jpeg it's completely different or the difference it's not so critical?

Yes, it is. The difference between a RAW file and a jpeg image is gigantic. A complete game changer.
If your desired image is the goal and the way to it would be a road then RAW would be a freaking jet fighter getting you to your destination as fast and efficient as possible.
Jpeg would be walking. Very, very slowly. And maybe sitting down a few times. Because your feet hurt.

Shooting in RAW gives you much more control over how your image looks and that's an essential tool in photography.
(an interesting article about the difference between RAW and jpeg can be found here.


what are the most common/important controls that you use in photoshop?
For shooting miniatures: just the gradient map. Normally I spent only 3 minutes with Photoshop because the main editing happens in RAW.

maybe could you post (if it's possible and you have time), one of these photos before photoshop? in this way I can distinguish/understand which goal I should have with the camera, and what I have to do with photoshop.
I will post one next weekend because I would like to explain a few things with it rather than simply posting one without any comment.
The ones I have on my hard-drive are not so good for comparison since they are already very close to the finished image because the main editing already happened in RAW. I will explain this further in a few days. :)

sorry, maybe too many questions :-D
Absolutely no problem. I would have written way more but since it's a weekday I sadly don't have the time (as many of us know, work kills almost all free time). But I'm happy to share and help and I will post some pictures over the weekend that will demonstrate the epic epicness of shooting in RAW in comparison to jpeg. :)
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#41827
Re:Balrog Ambush 3 Years, 3 Months ago  
ok great, thanks Kronos
We will wait there is no rush :)
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