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#3796
lava foutain.... best piece of DF? 9 Years, 9 Months ago  
It really seem to be!! :D
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#3797
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an another one, for the pleasure
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#3798
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I Voted No to this... But Not Because I Do not Like the Piece, (I Do Very Much), but I think for Utility there are Other Pieces Like the Right Angle Corridor Trap which has a Wider overal range of Uses... Good Question though.
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#3799
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i should have ask if the lava foutain is the most beautiful piece. It isn't the most usefull one of course. because when you use it ojne time in an adventure, you will not use it again just after. For me the most usefull piece of DF is simply the big floor 6x6 or a standart wall.

for me the lava foutain is the most worked piece. Look like a collecting piece.
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#3800
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Hm... I've actually been thinking about this, and I've decided that it is not my personal favorite, but it is definitely a candidate for some people.

Here's how it breaks down for me:

The lava fountain is clearly the "star" of the new floor set. It's the most spectacular, the most complex.

But I think my personal favorite is still the mermaid fountain. It was the first piece I got (my wife bought it for me!) and I still always return to it. I think I've maybe done two displays in like three or four years that didn't include it.

I think the new pieces, esp. the lava fountain, are more "fantastical" and dramatic than the older ones, even the demon arch. The stairs, the mermaid fountain, the secret door, all of these were kinda grounded, they wouldn't seem out of place in some ruins in northern France. The lava fountain, and the pentagram, they seem a bit more "Magic: The Gathering" or "Mage Knight"-ish -- somewhat over-the-top, a lot more fantastical and melodramatic.

In that way, my favorite element in the new set is probably...the well! It's got a really cool mystery to it, it seems so calm, but there's always a chance that something bad is somehow connected with it. I love the color scheme, and I think it blends well with the rest of hte peices. In the corner of a room somewhere, it just is this creepy pool of water. Since I got the set, I think that piece has grown on me the most. I really love it.


As for the lava, I do like being able to throw something in that is so intense. But I think the mermaid fountain ends up being a better combination of beauty and utility. It spices up a room, it gives a focal point for a display, without being that exaggerated. It can be re-used, therefore, more often. In that way, it is the best of both worlds -- as useful as a regular long wall piece, but as beautiful as the lava fountain.

Where the lava one excels is at being a real gaming piece. It can be incorporated into adventures more readily, because it DOES stand out. You can't really make the mermaid fountain much of an objective in the game, much of an element of the game. Your players would be really made if you revealed "Oh, the key was hidden in the mermaid fountain, you never looked there." But when they see the lava fountain, they KNOW it means something.... The well is more like the mermaid fountain, though I suppose some players might be more inclined to explore the well than they would the fountain.

I still rate the mermaid fountain as my favorite -- it's so REAL, and so beautiful, and so useful. The well is probably my SECOND favorite piece, since it keeps that combination, and it's an underrated little gem. The lava fountain is probably third for me. Mainly, again, because I don't see myself re-using it in every display like the others. After having it out for awhile, I'll probably want to replace it with something or else I'd feel like I was re-making the same display over and over....

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#3801
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You Know it Occurs to me that along the Lines of Law's Above Post, that The Crag is Pretty Darn Kewl Too... Especially if it is Used say as a Floor Tile with the Walls turned outward so that there is a Very Narrow and "Dangerous" Perimeter to negotiate... This Can be a Section of a room that is in disrepair, or a Focal Point Such as a Rift or Portal... It is sort of Sinister because it's Depths suggest Great Peril, yet it is just a Crag right? It Is a Pretty Kewl Piece... Ok... Ok... So Maybe the Whole Bloody Set is pretty Darn Kewl...! But I would Like to see some Expansion on the The Theme Suggested by the Crag Piece...
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#3802
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But I think my personal favorite is still the mermaid fountain.
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The mermaid foutain is clearly very usefull. You can use it everywhere because, as you say, it is not so "magical". Each time i use water ( lake, river or something else ) i put it in my keep. It is like a secret door between the room and the other with the lake.

but when you look the color work these two piece are not playing in the same category. Or maybe i haven't been lucky and i get some "bad" mermaid foutain. Just have a look on this picture, the painted work of the sirene seems to be not finish
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#3803
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There is a Deffinate Advantage to the Style used in the Well for getting the Water Texture and "Depth" (Although others have argued that it is not Deep Enough), the Mermaid Fountain which IS a Lovely Piece is very 2-D in its Water Effects, so maybe that is what Tom is having Issues with?... Either Way I would not Give up the Mermaid Fountain for Nothing it's a Great Piece! And Honestly I HAVE used it as a Quest Piece... Makes a Great "Magical" Fountain of Health, Beauty, Intelligence... Curses...<EFG>...
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#3804
lava foutain.... best piece of DF? 9 Years, 9 Months ago  
Hi all!

Wow... great question. Architecturally, I think it's great. I've not seen one in my hands but by the photos I've seen, it's a great looking piece. As far as "eye candy" goes, I like the lava fountain, the mermaid fountain, and the goblin archway--pretty equally. If I had to rank them in order of preference, I guess it would be as I've listed them here.

I tend to use the mermaid fountain and goblin archway frequently in my games. I can always come up with a new twist on why they're where they're at. I could see using the lava fountain the same way--as a cult center piece or altar for some evil religion that has followers throughout my world. That would let me get away with having it in many different dungeon settings.

With respect to the look and color of the mermain fountain, I found it to be passable for a (somewhat) mass-produced piece. Being the perfectionist that I am, I often "tweak" or touch up figures and/or scenery pieces I have to make them more personal and to add features that I'd like to see on them. One thing I could see doing with the lava fountain once I buy the set is setting some orange colored gems into the eye sockets of the bull heads. That would look awesome IMHO.

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#3805
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Dante,

Great Idea on The Gem Stones, I Think I'll attempt the "Cheater" method and simply Paint them, as I Do not want to mess with the Existing Eye Structure... (Too Expensive to replace if I blow it)... Though a Cracked Lava Fountain would have Character too I guess...<Smirk>... So Thanks for the EYE-dea...
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#3806
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Ugh. I can't believe you went there. ha ha...

I have a Dremel tool that I'd probably use at a low setting to try to hollow out the sockets a bit. Of course I say this but the piece will probably never get finished. ha
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#3807
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Dante,

Sorry but it is So Difficult for me to Pass up on a Punny Moment... Ok.. So I am Not Sorry... Not Really... But if You Do Get around to Modifying the Piece, By All means Post a Pic so we can all Oooh... And Ahhh... To Be Honest I am Surprized not to See more Mods up here? (Not from You Specifically, Just in General)...
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