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#44460
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Hi Biowizard,

You mentioned that you used wall plaster to fill in the sides. Was it something like this: Pre-Mixed Joint Compound? This stuff is for patching holes in walls.
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Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Wow!!!

Jericho, you just dug up my first post ever on the DF forum! Time passes by too fast. I'm quite glad my little project inspired you. Some words of warning though, this takes a lot of time! I believe I needed around 30 casts of each HA roof molds to have enough pieces. I also think I stumbled once across a retailer that would sell huge plastic sheets of the HA roof design which you could cut to any size but I just can't find the link back for you. The product I used to fill the HA shingles is plain joint compound which I applied with curls to give it an appropriate texture. The one I used was another brand then the one you found but they should all act the same. One last bit of advice: while gluing HA roof pieces upon a somewhat rigid cardboard with PVA glue, the cardboard will warp! You might want to experience with several strategies before gluing all your 30 casts at once. Maybe you can find some form of very rigid plastic sheetings?

It's too bad I never got to post any scene with my custom roofs. I'm still separated from most of my gaming stuff that are at a friend's place in Canada. This post-doc I'm doing at Harvard med is taking forever...
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#44468
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Thanks for the tips. 30 casts isn't too bad. I will just lose a weekend. I looked at a few places that sell resin casts but the price per sheet was about $2. So I would end up spending $60 and wouldn't be able to make any more.

If you don't mind my asking what did you do your PhD work in? Biology? I am wrapping up my PhD this year in physics (hopefully).
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#44469
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
My PhD is in molecular biology (DNA, proteins and the likes...). My avatar picture is me (a scientist), dressed as a (mad) scientist for Halloween. I hope your thesis' project works well!

What I meant for plastic sheeting to model roofs is something similar to this. I guess you can find many different designs, scales and pricing in the doll house as well as the train hobby world. You would probably not need to buy 30 sheets, unless you were to do 50 roof pieces. It saves a lot on the casting/gluing work time.
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#44470
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
That's so funny, I have a PhD in philosophy! Dwarven Forge must appeal to a certain type of person, I suppose....
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Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Law wrote:
That's so funny, I have a PhD in philosophy! Dwarven Forge must appeal to a certain type of person, I suppose....


type of person = nerds :)
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#44475
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
So Biowizard, it is two years later, would you do it different?

I was wondering if you would suggest plastic sheet as the under frame rather than cardboard after two years of use. Would you suggest using rigid plastic sheeting with some balsa wood and plaster? Or would you still use the HA for the 'timber'?
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#44477
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Duncan_and_Dragons wrote:
So Biowizard, it is two years later, would you do it different?

I was wondering if you would suggest plastic sheet as the under frame rather than cardboard after two years of use. Would you suggest using rigid plastic sheeting with some balsa wood and plaster? Or would you still use the HA for the 'timber'?


I was wondering this too. After I get the hang of it with some hydrostone I was going to move to resin casting and perhaps plastic sheet material instead of cardboard.
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#44480
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Don't get me wrong. My roofs were flat 2 years ago and they still are. I was referring to the moment when I glued the HA pieces on the cardboard. In order to prevent warping at that moment, I put something flat and heavy on them overnight while the glue was drying. Plasticard (sheet styrene) or something similar would probably be easier to deal with and be more sturdy. Also, with my experience doing a huge treasure pile, I think balsa wood would probably warp as bad as cardboard.

Another advice, not to be confused with the one I just described, is not to use HA altogether! Casting 30 times the same mold is very time consuming as the HA pieces you get are quite small (you still can do it, as I did). The Plastruct link I had included describes a product that is quite big (7 * 24 inches). You just have to cut this piece of plastic to the appropriate size and you're done! No need to use HA or stick anything on it, it already has a roofing pattern inlaid in it. I said I once came across another online retailer who was selling huge plastic sheetings (to be cut to the right size by the end user) which had HA roofing patterns inlaid in it. I'm sorry I can't locate it for you guys. The Plastruct product might also not be the best one, you just need to go looking for it.
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#44497
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
Jericho, best of luck on you defense and I often ponder the average intellect of the DF fan…I was invited to pursue my Doctorate at Gonzaga after I finished My MAEd but even with partial scholarships I could not swing it. In Washington State, unless you go into admin, they pay you nothing extra for a PhD. Oh well, my master thesis was on parental involvement and academic achievement. My undergraduate degrees are in Ed, Sped and Soc. What can I say? I love learning.
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Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 9 Months ago  
thebigteacher wrote:
Jericho, best of luck on you defense and I often ponder the average intellect of the DF fan…I was invited to pursue my Doctorate at Gonzaga after I finished My MAEd but even with partial scholarships I could not swing it. In Washington State, unless you go into admin, they pay you nothing extra for a PhD. Oh well, my master thesis was on parental involvement and academic achievement. My undergraduate degrees are in Ed, Sped and Soc. What can I say? I love learning.


Thanks! I think DF just attracts people with an obsession for detail :).
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#44637
Re:New set of roofs to transfrom Dwarven Forge in buildings 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
I finished 1 roof over the weekend. I casually casted the roof mold 6 times which gave me enough to make a 6 x 6 inch roof. I loved the result. I used hydrostone casting plaster, hobby sticks, joint compound, and foam board for the base. I gave it 3 coats of semi-gloss and 1 coat of matte. I will add a picture when I get home. This weekend I am going to make another roof but I am only going to assemble the two long sides, the two triangle sides, and the cap that goes on the top corner. That way I can make a couple of molds that will allow me to cast the roof in one go. I can then just glue the 5 pieces together. Also, since I will be using resin I will not need the foam board. I hope the texture of the joint compound and the wood hobby sticks show up.
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