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#29365
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
GS, that was an interesting question. After being inspired by the skeleton comparisons from L, and reading Ghengis Ska's question. Here are some pics to compare similar AT-43 minis and WOTC Star Wars minis. The scales seem very similar, only the bases are way different. I think it would be easy to mod an AT-43 figure with a WOTC base. Just cut the base off a WOTC mini you don't like. I keep meaning to buy more AT-43 stuff, but "Force Unleashed" was released, and then "Legacy of the Force", so I was busy buying SWM and Games Workshop stuff too.

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#29366
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
Thanks, this is what i was looking for, i kind of figured it was the bases, but it was hard to tell. They looked like thye would be close, but when i did a few side by side in the box, the AT-43 looked bigger, i knew the base was bigger but it is hard to tell if the figs were as well. I am interested in some of the "heros", but at the price tag for many of them i didnt' want to spend the cash if they were grossly out of scale, they look ok, so will have to nip over and by a few of the ones i was looking at...
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#29367
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
I own quite a few of both (SW and AT-43) mini types.

I have to say, that the scale is totally compatible in terms of height, and overall appearance. The AT-43 minis do have something of a "Heroic" scale in terms of weapon and equipment size. Especially when compared with either SW or D&D minis.

This is not a complaint, the minis are really very nicely detailed and reasonably well painted. Better than the average common or even uncommon SW in my opinion.

In terms of AT-43 and DF... They work just fine, though as stated already by Dead, the basses are much wider [AT-43 medium base = approx 30mm compared to WotC at roughly 25mm] and the AT-43 bases are significantly thicker/taller [AT-43 medium base = approx 5mm compared to WotC at roughly 3mm].*

Interestingly, for the generally more heroic weapons scale, and the larger bases, the actual height of the AT-43 minis are rather comparable to most of the WotC medium humanoids, with many of the WotC exhibiting more variation. This is due primarily to the fact that the AT-43 figures are rarely standing up straight, but rather tend to have their knees bent slightly.

I might also point out, that the heads are close enough in size to be somewhat interchangeable for mods. I took an Imperial Dark Trooper, removed his Stormtrooper head and replaced it with one of my "Extra" AT-43 heads I had from an early set. It looks to be in fairly good scale, and I will likely do it again when I get around to converting some of my SW aliens into Humans.

All of that said, I really like the AT-43 stuff a lot, but the variety that WotC has to offer is trully impressive.

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NOTE: these measurements are not exact, as I do not have a set of calipers.
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#29368
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
I like the look of a good number of the AT43 but cost is the big issue, (and epic guns the second). Next month (after i pay for Gamma) I will be picking a few up...
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AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
G. Ska,

Yeah, they are pricey. But I have to say that I love the vehicles. They are great for near-future stuff as well as full on Sci-Fi. That said, I have purchased almost none of the "Machine" race (Therians) other than those which came with OD (Operation Damoclese). The few I have make great "Robots" but I really have focused more on the Human factions and the Gorilla-folk (Karmans). In fact the Karman Fliers are really nicely detailed and make great "Jet-cars"...

The next sets I am looking forward to are the Med-Tech Unit Set (Which includes an awesome looking "Aide-Station" conversion of one of their cargo containers) and the Campaign: Frostbite Set, which will include some Ice Crystal terrain pieces, and several Civilian Technician minis... You know, Orange Jumpsuits, welding torches stuff like that. Perfect for you SW fans and your Hoth ground crew needs...

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#29370
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
Don't forget this other aspect... AT-43 is also an excellent game! :-)
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#29371
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
Don't forget this other aspect... AT-43 is also an excellent game! :-)
Here is the funny part about that, I have not played it! *Doh*... I use the minis for another RPG, but have never actually played AT-43 as its own system... But yes, all of the reports are good, and the rules that came with OD seem straight forward enough... And it "Reads" as though it would be good, just have not had the opportunity to try it out...

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#29372
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
I've just gotten into AT-43 in a BIG way, myself !!!

Lucky me scored a deal on a bunch of boxes from a guy I know who was getting out of it (into Historicals, instead). I wasn't too into the Red Blok army but, since they were included, I'm in now :D

I just don't have ANY time to paint these days and, while I'm good at it, I find nothing wrong with the AT-43 miniatures. Besides, they're generic enough to proxy into other games systems ... the Therians make GW's Necrons look about as sinister as a kid in a Casper costume on Halloween :lol:
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#29373
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
I as with many of the thing things on the market, just like the minis, Some of those ape bikes are nice, but way yo expensive. Your comment on technicians made me go searching, and i saw the pics of the nurses and the red and orange coat people. They look nice.

As to game play i played in a Demo at Comic Con back in 2007, and wasn't greatly impressed with it while the rules didn't seem that bad, what you get for the price was a turn off.

I have picked up some of the scenery they do, becuase well that isn't that bad, but for the most part it's just to rich for my blood.
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#29374
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
Yeah, I can't say I would have gotten into AT-43 if I didn't get such a great deal. Granted, the starter set is a good value and you'd also end up with basic rules to play games with your new miniatures.

I was really looking forward to the AT-43's counterpart, Confrontation: Age of Ragnarok, but those prices seem to be even higher. $35 for a hero on a horse ??!!! No thanks ... for that much the model better be able to charge across the table on it's own yelling battle-cries !!! :lol:
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#29375
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
Actually, you get three knights for 35 dollars, and the attachment box of two costs 24 dollars (when the boxes are released - at least that's what it looks like on the FFG website), which means that you get each painted and assembled rider and horse for about 12 dollars.

I have several W40K armies and I really like that stuff, but I'm not too fond of the rules, or rather the I go/you go way of doing it. AT-43 has a system where you decide on the activation order for your units at the start of the turn, and then you activate one unit, your opponent activates one of his units, and then you activate one of yours, and so on until all units have been activated. You have to plan ahead and you can continously react to each other's actions.

...and I really like the Second World War/Cold War/50's look... :-)
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#29376
AT-43 and SWM Compared (For GS) 6 Years, 6 Months ago  
Cool !! Thanks for the clarification Willypold. That makes the price-point MUCH better !!!

When Rackham first hit the market I fell in love with the Dirz models. I am thrilled to see them introduced into the pre-painted (most of my metals are STILL bare) Confrontation: AOR line-up ... and more-so, now, thanks to your clarification of Rackham's packaging. The site I referenced only showed and called the knight singularly.

Oh well ... looks like I put off retirement for another year :D ... only 62 more years to go :lol:
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