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#27516
Thod's Christmas project - Dwarven Mine 6 Years, 8 Months ago  
Whitewind

Okay - now I understand. Also a great idea.

All

Here are some more photos

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#27517
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You Rock the Free World. I sseem to be saying that a lot lately. This rocks.

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#27518
Thod's Christmas project - Dwarven Mine 6 Years, 8 Months ago  
Thod,

Great pieces! Very inspiring, see below...


Jim,

Being inspired by Thod's excellent mining creations and with a goal of economizing space (by producing accessories and not fixed pieces) I have recently started experimenting/using the A t l a s N scale 80 track with great success (for my purposes anyway).

Please note that I have since acquired and used an assortment of various lengths and pieces with various initial curvatures to enable more track building possibilities later on.

To alter, (or enhance) the curvature of these track pieces one only needs to cut out some of the the "spacing" that connects the ties together (beneath the railings) on the interior angle. Once this has been done, just bend the track to the desired curvature and trim/remove the excess rail that has slid out at the end of the interior angle. The track is well made and remains attached as each tie grips the track.

Using the bending method (as mentioned above) I have managed to form different angles of curvature. I have also managed to form different types (such as sharp, gradual) and shapes (middle, end or 2-stage turns) of curves within single pieces of track. This range in variety (of turns) has also allowed me the option to keep my tracks separate as they can be fit within various setups. Next, I will experiment with forming a winding, S-shaped piece by altering the exterior angle.

If there is a downside, it may be that the ties are noticably smaller (and more numerous) than the custom examples displayed in this post. Beyond that, the width of the track seems fairly close (if not slightly closer) than the examples shown.

That being said, personally I am very happy with, and could not have hoped for better results myself.

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#27519
Thod's Christmas project - Dwarven Mine 6 Years, 8 Months ago  
wereweasel;

I'm SUPPOSED to get some N-scale track to Thod, but I haven't found any really tight curves that I wanted to send him - the tightest I found were 8 3/16" radius KATO UNITRACK, which isn't all that tight. I know someone makes tighter curves, but I haven't found them, and if I order them from someone and have them sent direct, then UK Customs and VAT will just add the price beyond reasonable, which was the whole reason for ME to do the drop-ship in the first place!
There IS a small tool that I've seen once or twice in railroad hobby magazines and catalogs for handlaying track that I think will come in VERY handy for this project. I have to find it again and pick it up, then send it on to Thod. It's a three-armed tool that sits across the rails then spiking them down to keep them in alignment, and for curved track, it is supposedly THE BEST. I think it will work GREAT for getting the tight curves in the mines, especially with flex-track.

Thod;

I'm still on the job, as you can see from the post I just entered for wereweasel. But I fear we are outta luck on fixed sectional track curves. What I think will be the best way to go will be "flex-track" for the curves, and once the curvature is at the desired radius, use CA glue to fix the rails to the ties (sleepers) to hold the curve. That SHOULD work. As soon as I find the tool I mentioned to wereweasel, I'll send it on to you, along with a couple of sections of N-scale flex-track. I hope you have a mailbox that will accept a 30" parcel! If not, let me know, and I'll pre-cut the track to 15" sections before packing it up.
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#27520
Thod's Christmas project - Dwarven Mine 6 Years, 8 Months ago  
Jim,

Regarding my earlier comment:

Please note that I have since acquired and used an assortment of various lengths and pieces with various initial curvatures to enable more track building possibilities later on.
I hope this didn't confuse the issue, as all of the pieces I purchased were either straight or had gradual turns only. None of the pieces I had found had what I would consider "tight" turns, (such as 90 degree angles/piece).
To get those tight/severe angles I had to bend/enhance the turns on the individual pieces.

Although there's more time/effort involved, I actually prefer using track that can be easily customized, exactly as desired.

Anyway, good luck in your search for the track. Hopefully you'll find the one you want soon, as it would be GREAT to see what Thod does with it!

BTW, have you managed to source any good mining carts?

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#27521
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Were-Steve -

So far, all I'VE seen were some Z-SCALE Ore hoppers, which were way UNDER-gauge for N-gauge track, of course! At this point, I'm considering buying Z ore cars and mounting them on ONE N truck each, in a rigid mount, which would give two axles per car, and a relatively small hopper. Something similar to what Indy and Co. rode down the track in the second movie (Temple of Doom). I think that's what many of us are seeing anyway, in our mind's eye, when envisioning a dwarven mine, unless we are actually picturing an actual mining operation, which would be almost totally different from that. For an actual mining operation, we would want trains of cars, pulled by either mules or other burden beasts, or SOME kind of locomotive engine, steam, electric, or magical.
Thod, any thoughts here? and have you given any thought toward whether you want standard or narrow gauge?
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#27522
Thod's Christmas project - Dwarven Mine 6 Years, 8 Months ago  
This is what you should look for:

www.roco.com/grid/Roco/HOe.aspx

This is HOe/HOn30 (depending on your continent of choice). Pay particular attention to the 34500-34510 series of cars - the single truck 34503 and 34504 (and their equally sized friends) are exactly 1 inch from end to end. Kind of small, even for dwarves to sit in! :-)

The Walthers company carries Roco in the US and you should be able to get anything that is available from that source.

www.walthers.com/exec/page/manuinfo/v625
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#27523
Thod's Christmas project - Dwarven Mine 6 Years, 8 Months ago  
All

Please keep on posting. Sorry that you haven't heard much from me. Here is an update about my plans:

1) I gathered a lot more stones from the beach and should be ready to make some more walls
3) I need to find an evening to get this done
3) My supplier of rubber is open for business again. The main issue is now to time it to find a day I want to work at home to coincide with a delivery. The stuff comes by courier and they won't leave it at the door. More resin as well as colours and fillers will come at the same time
4) Once I have the walls and the rubber it should be 24 hours to get the mold and the first cast
5) I got some wooden stirrers, as I'm close to run out on wood. Actually I carry 3 different sizes in my jacket for nearly a week now (yes - there are three sizes in use at the various coffee vending places at my company - should hurry - one will close soon and I need to check which size is best)
5) True rails will follow. Sounds great what Werweasel describes. Could you add some photos - that would be great.

So - I haven't abandoned the project - but as I'm back to work it is going more slowly right now. Work, family as well as my campaign have precedence.

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#27524
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willypold;

Looks like Walthers is discontinuing Roco trains, according to their web page. However, the Roco web page is alive and well, and their 34500 tipple car is PERFECT, I think! GREAT pointer!

Thod, can you live with a 15" length of flex track, instead of 30"? If so, let me know, and I'll get you a couple of them, from different manufacturers. You can bend them to any radius, and using CA glue, lock them at that curve; just glue the ties to the rails to hold them in the curvature. NO gluing fingers to rails or ties, please!

Jim
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#27525
Thod's Christmas project - Dwarven Mine 6 Years, 8 Months ago  
Jim

Not sure about 15'' - after all - I need to cut it in smaller pieces ...

Off course you fool - even small odd sized pieces will do. Anything from 5 cm (2 inch) upwards will find some use.

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#27526
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I WISH I could remember the entire Obi-Wan quote from the original movie! I gotta rerun that DVD again!
Yeah, you KNOW which quote I'm talking about, Thod! :P
Anyway, I'll hit the RR store this weekend and get you a sample selection, and get them on their way, along with regular prices - but remember, this set is on me! And, I STILL have to try to find that 3-point alignment tool!

Besides, WHO's off course (I LOVE doing jokes based on typographic errors)?

Jim
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#27527
Thod's Christmas project - Dwarven Mine 6 Years, 8 Months ago  
willypold;

Looks like Walthers is discontinuing Roco trains, according to their web page. However, the Roco web page is alive and well, and their 34500 tipple car is PERFECT, I think! GREAT pointer!

Jim

Happy to be of service!

I have a small bunch of the cars and a single engine intended for a small narrow-gauge layout I'm certain I will build... any old decade... :-)
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