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#24220
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
Wow -- it's been a REAL long time since I've done any casting. But I just couldn't help it, Bruce has been so busy updating his line. And the new cavern stuff seemed like a PERFECT way to get some easy DF accessories.

If you want details on this stuff, check out the thread I posted in the "Gaming" forum below. Meanwhile, here are the pics.

These first pics, obviously, are unpainted. I was too busy to do anything but cast today, but I glued together the rocks (most of them come in two or three pieces, they glue together in about a minute). I will hopefully have time to paint them tomorrow.

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#24221
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
Which mold/molds is this i think there are now 3-4 cavern molds...
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#24222
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
Someone is selling these already made but not really painted on E-bay...let me see if I can find the link...

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#24223
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
Those are nice, but before buying, I'd do the math.

I used cavern mold #82 -- the other wall one is 81, and then there are floor and accessory molds too.

The mold cost $35. The plaster and paint and glue I already owned, but I suppose if I had to buy them, it might make getting pre-painted more appealing (and cheaper).

If I never make another, this will have cost me more than getting pre-painted. But if I make enough, I'll have spent a lot less. And heck, maybe I'll try selling some on eBay too! These are small enough, light enough, to be easier to ship, and less likely to break. They're pretty great accessories, too!

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actually, I checked out the guy's auction, and his website, and I'm kinda annoyed -- unless I missed it, he never mentions Bruce Hirst or Hirst Arts -- which is the ONE thing Bruce asks people to do if they're gonna sell this stuff. You can make all the money you want with things you've made out of his molds, but just MENTION his company... and this guy acts like everything is something he made entirely on his own.... sheesh, the nerve of some folks...
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#24224
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
Yeah, that is kinda annoying.

L, if you make some and paint them up I'm sure you'd find a large market for them - I'd buy a bunch myself!!!
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#24225
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
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If you want the pieces unpainted go to:

stores.castlekits.com/

This is an official Hirst Arts reseller and it's only $2 for each mold. In regard to painting - well - the ones on E-Bay look fine painted. But the issue is - they seem quite a different colour scheme to DF. I don't say the DF colour scheme is superior - but you probably want something which matches it better.

And yes - boycot someone not mentioning Bruce and Hirst Arts. Otherwise he might object one day against stuff like mine which I sell on E-Bay - and I surely won't want that.

For Europeans wanting these accesories - wait for a few month and I surely will get the molds and could made some casts for fellow Europeans with less shipping costs as from the US. I might even make them in resin - need to check out how much this would cost (100g of resin = £1 material cost).

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#24226
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
I bought a set last week of the ones being sold on e-bay and I can tell you they are BARELY painted!
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#24227
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
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You have done it - I have succumbed and just ordered 5 more molds from Bruce. The Aegyptian Acessory - for the pyramid mold I own - and all four cavern wall molds.

I had planned to wait a little bit longer until I wanted 5 molds (it's cheapest that way - you get 10% off and same shipping cost to the UK as a single mold). Just wasn't aware that Bruce had produced 2 more molds since I checked the last time.

Hmm - seems I have to sell another of my Ice Sets. Actually - just finished two of them last weekend - my fourth and fifth so far. One of them (third generation) to 'finally keep' - well - I thought so about my first and third set I produced as well ...

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#24228
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
Heh heh heh. I just finished painting my first cavern accessories -- MAN, do I love this stuff! They are going to look great.

I was thinking about you, actually, when I started using these. You could probably make some WICKED ice structures with these, I'd expect. Might have to make your own mold first, I'm not sure if the resin you use would work with these molds...

Anyhoo, I'm gonna leave my pieces as they are for now, but I do plan to add some "water" to them eventually. While I'm at it, I may add a drop to some of the small water basins from the DF Cavern set. Mine have long since dried out.

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#24229
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
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COuld you say what colors you used to paint the cavern pieces with?

Maybe I can find someone to paint the ones I ordered...
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#24230
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
Sure! I started with a black primer, though I haven't been happy with my primers lately. For some reason they aren't mixing properly no matter how long I shake them, and they need constant re-shaking throughout. The final result, instead of being a nice flat black base, is frequently far greyer than I want, and a lot thinner.

ANYHOO, so then I went after the whole thing with a basic flat black paint, to make sure the recesses were all nice and dark.

Then I mixed some titanium white, carbon black, and a LOT of raw sienna. First, I used a heavy raw sienna/black mix and gave a "wet drybrush" coat to the pieces. ("Wet drybrushing" is my term for doing a very dark coat over almost the entire piece, acting as if you were drybrushing but without wiping most of the brush first -- you end up essentially painting the piece, but leaving some of the recesses alone -- it's a good way to get a very dark start)

Then I used a lighter mix, mostly raw sienna with just a tiny bit of black, and drybrushed over the piece with a more traditional drybrush coat. That gave me pieces that roughly matched the DF cavern pieces, but they didn't yet offer much detail or have any real highlights.

So then I went with a light raw sienna/titanium white mix, to add some highlights and to bring out the wonderful details in Bruce's design. Then I used a much lighter, almost entirely white mix (so light brown it was almost pink) to do the uppermost tips of the stalagmites and raised surfaces on the rock.

I'm extremely pleased with the results, though I may have overdone the highlights -- some of the lower areas, that didn't receive the highlight treatment, seem to match the DF better.

I'm including a few pics taken in daylight, and a shot of the pieces I've made so far. Mold #82 makes four separate rock formations -- I cast it three times, so I have twelve in all. I'll try to get some shots in artificial light up later tonight, see how this looks when it isn't in the sunlight (which makes a BIG difference for these things)

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#24231
Hirst Arts Cavern Accessories 7 Years, 5 Months ago  
OK, here are a few pics I took in the nighttime lighting. Enjoy!

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