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#20929
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 6 Years, 9 Months ago  
Thanks Stefan,

I think that would help for some, though of course the packs would need to be sold seperately as well. However I would still like to see something more customised with the groove for the slabs in, and no stippled pattern on the surface of the half bow ties.

The putty thing doesn't work well for me as I dont have much time for modifying, and painting on the actual models is not something I would like to try.

I wonder if an enthusiast here would consider a custom casting of a half bow tie that would do the job described above. I'd consider helping with costs of setup if someone can show me a decent prototype.
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#20930
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 6 Years, 9 Months ago  
Thanks Stefan,

I think that would help for some, though of course the packs would need to be sold seperately as well. However I would still like to see something more customised with the groove for the slabs in, and no stippled pattern on the surface of the half bow ties.

The putty thing doesn't work well for me as I dont have much time for modifying, and painting on the actual models is not something I would like to try.

I wonder if an enthusiast here would consider a custom casting of a half bow tie that would do the job described above. I'd consider helping with costs of setup if someone can show me a decent prototype.

The packs of 100 half bow ties will only be available seperately, they are not coming with any of the new "Bowtie less" sets.
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#20931
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 6 Years, 9 Months ago  
Stefan,

Can the half bowtie packs be purchased along with the pre-orders?

I could really use some of these but can't justify a separate shipping fee of approx $45-$50 just for them.
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#20932
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 6 Years, 3 Months ago  
I assume this will work for caverns as well, if a bit more care is taken because of the irregular floor tiles?
It does. Honestly, I forgot how much I hated filling in all those holes. I just did two sets of caverns. They look 200% better now that the holes are gone, but it was a lot of holes to have to sit there and fill. I used (a lot) of green stuff. I just painted them with Apple Barrel paints.


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#20933
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 6 Years, 3 Months ago  
What are Apple Barrel paints?

Any particular color?

Did you "texturize" the green stuff to mathc the floor at all before painting?

Thanks!
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#20934
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 6 Years, 3 Months ago  
Apple Barrel paints are just the cheap water-based paints that you can by at Michael's (a US craft store for those unfamiliar) and even Wal-Mart. You can get them pretty cheap, I think as low as $0.79 a tube. I undercoated in a dark grey and then dry-brushed (fairly heavily) with a medium grey mixed with a some golden yellow. There is a considerable yellowish tint to the upper color of the caverns. I did not find that there was any need to take a darker color to fill in the cracks. I did on the normal dungeon sets though. So it was a three step process for me on the normal sets and only a two step process on the caverns.

The only tool I used to fill them in was a hobby knife. I did not add an additional texture. Just stippling the top of the putty with the side of the knife gave a good enough cavern texture. I did, of course sculpt out the crevasses for rocks, and also just used the knife to cut layers into the sides.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot to say go ahead and spring for the green stuff if you are going to do this. I hate the DAS clay. It is like trying to fill in the bow-tie connectors with red clay from your backyard. When it dries, sometimes the clay doesn't stick to the pieces and falls out. I'd sometimes have to go back and glue one in. The green stuff is epoxy first and foremost, so it it sticks the does not go anywhere. Furthermore, the DAS red clay gets on your fingers, and before you know it is on everything at your hobby table that you don't want it on, especially on other parts of the Dwarven Forge pieces that you either have to clean or paint over. Maybe there is something that the DAS clay is good for, but I'd rather not use it for this.
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#20935
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 5 Years, 3 Months ago  
Bump

Was looking for this and well found it but wanted to make it easier for me to find it the next time....I guess I could of saved the "link" but....at any rate...

Bump


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#20936
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 5 Years, 3 Months ago  
Apple Barrel paints are just the cheap water-based paints that you can by at Michael's (a US craft store for those unfamiliar) and even Wal-Mart. You can get them pretty cheap, I think as low as $0.79 a tube. I undercoated in a dark grey and then dry-brushed (fairly heavily) with a medium grey mixed with a some golden yellow. There is a considerable yellowish tint to the upper color of the caverns. I did not find that there was any need to take a darker color to fill in the cracks. I did on the normal dungeon sets though. So it was a three step process for me on the normal sets and only a two step process on the caverns.

The only tool I used to fill them in was a hobby knife. I did not add an additional texture. Just stippling the top of the putty with the side of the knife gave a good enough cavern texture. I did, of course sculpt out the crevasses for rocks, and also just used the knife to cut layers into the sides.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I forgot to say go ahead and spring for the green stuff if you are going to do this. I hate the DAS clay. It is like trying to fill in the bow-tie connectors with red clay from your backyard. When it dries, sometimes the clay doesn't stick to the pieces and falls out. I'd sometimes have to go back and glue one in. The green stuff is epoxy first and foremost, so it it sticks the does not go anywhere. Furthermore, the DAS red clay gets on your fingers, and before you know it is on everything at your hobby table that you don't want it on, especially on other parts of the Dwarven Forge pieces that you either have to clean or paint over. Maybe there is something that the DAS clay is good for, but I'd rather not use it for this.

I purchased some black "Sculpty Putty III" and it worked great. Had to bake it and the resin pieces stunk some but it still did great. I could see where leaving it in to long might be an issue because the DF stuff seemed a little flexible but all ended complete. Plus the black isn't to intrusive so can game with it not painted and not look to bad. I figured fill it in and the painting will come!

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#20937
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 5 Years, 3 Months ago  
... Had to bake it and the resin pieces stunk some ...
"DANGER, Sean Robinson, DANGER !!"

Please be very careful if you bake any resin ... the smell is the plastic off-gassing and it's very hazardous. Then, certain oils are released that can rise to the cerfice of the resin and pose a tactile hazard. Early plastic keys of typewriters were so toxic that they disintigrated fingertip bones :o

I don't know how much of a problem this is/would be with the painted DF pieces but, rather than take the chance, I suggest using the GREY "Green Stuff". While not black, it isn't green, so it won't stand out so glaringly.


Safety Patrolman, Mike, signing off :cool:
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#20938
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 5 Years, 3 Months ago  
... Had to bake it and the resin pieces stunk some ...
"DANGER, Sean Robinson, DANGER !!"

Please be very careful if you bake any resin ... the smell is the plastic off-gassing and it's very hazardous. Then, certain oils are released that can rise to the cerfice of the resin and pose a tactile hazard. Early plastic keys of typewriters were so toxic that they disintigrated fingertip bones :o

I don't know how much of a problem this is/would be with the painted DF pieces but, rather than take the chance, I suggest using the GREY "Green Stuff". While not black, it isn't green, so it won't stand out so glaringly.


Safety Patrolman, Mike, signing off :cool:

I myself didn't notice a smell but my wife said she did.. I will keep a look out for it. I am pretty much done now anyways.

Kept the house pretty well ventilated for her.
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#20939
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 5 Years, 2 Months ago  
Just a suggestion - if you mix some 'brown stuff' epoxy putty in with the 'green stuff', it actually gives you a greenish-grey that isn't all that far off from the DF color. Try one part brown to two parts green. It makes for a much less noticeable fill if one weren't going to paint. (Note: the 'brown stuff' is a bit more more expensive than the green, but it dries harder and shrinks less, and mixes nicely with the green.)

Also, for texturing, I keep a small piece of very rough-grade sandpaper handy. Press it lightly against the putty, just to add a few pockmarks and such.


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#20940
How to Fill in your Bow Ties-Demo 5 Years, 2 Months ago  
I wonder if Mighty Putty would be useful. It seems like it mixes better than the hard green stuff
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