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#20767
A new toy for Christmas - got a Dremel - first time use 7 Years, 11 Months ago  
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Well - it's not absolutely correct - it is a Dremel like tool from Aldi - just 15 pounds and I got it a week ahead of Christmas but my wife insisted to place it under the Christmas tree. Today after I now finally unpacked it and got to use it. I tried to make pictures along the project. There is surely ways to improve.

I started with a floor trap piece.

Picture 1 shows the trap already cut out and the first half assembled.

Picture 2 shows the floor trap from the bottom. I did place the flap door in the opposite way - this way I had to grind away less

Picture 3 shows the whole lot assembled. You might notice the screws are too long. I decided rather to use some bigger screws and fix it later

Picture 4 shows the top of the screws being cut of. There is some small damage to the surface

Picture 5 - a little bit of paint is doing wonders

Picture 6 - some drybrush later and you have to look close now to spot the top of the screws

Picture 7 - the trap door in action

Picture 8 - from a different angle - I might want to paint the metal as well

Picture 9 - the tools I used

Picture 10 - the rest of the tools

All in all it doesn't look perfect if placed flat - but I'm pretty please how it looks when open. Anyhow - for real playing you would want to place a normal floor piece during play which you replace. And I'm sure the next one will turn out even better.

All in all a pretty quick project and now there is a really working trap door.

Thod









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#20768
A new toy for Christmas - got a Dremel - first time use 7 Years, 11 Months ago  
Hi Thod -

Great idea !!! I've found metal "cutting" disks for rotary tools that are very thin and work better than the "sanding" disks ... less area around the cut getting vaporised into fine resin dust. Speaking of ... be sure to wear a dust mask as you're working on projects with resin - very bad stuff for lung tissue.

Looking forward to seeing your other / next projects !!

- M
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#20769
A new toy for Christmas - got a Dremel - first time use 7 Years, 11 Months ago  
Thod,

I can't believe you cut the entire square (from the centre) so well.

BTW, do you intend to touch up the edges with some green stuff or would it not be durable enough?


Anyway, congrats on the excellent piece and thanks for the detailed "step-by-step" as well. That will be most helpful for me.



On a related note, as you like trap doors might I suggest a trip to the local train shop.

A few months ago I picked up some (metallic) rustic wooden fences of various scales, (the smaller scale I intend to use for fences and the larger scale fences I have to use as platforms and drawbridges. Since the planks are made of metal they are both durable and will fit in nicely with the other DF doors as well. fyi The larger fences -(plank sections) are each 5" long and about 1.5" wide.

I figured I'd mention the drawbridge idea, as the most challenging part (for me anyway) is attaching the hinge, and seeing your post that should be no problem for you.
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A new toy for Christmas - got a Dremel - first time use 7 Years, 11 Months ago  
Myrthe, Wereweasel

Thanks for the advice. I found some smaller disks in my set. I doubt they are for metal cutting - but the cut should take away less material. I will try a different disk next time or might even look around for a better one when I'm in a DIY shop.

About the cuts - only one is really straight - the one opposite the hinges. The disk I used fits nicely into the gab of the trap door. Once I had this one cut I used the hand saw (a lot less dust and the dust is much more coarse). I struggled to get a straight cut for the three other sites. I solved this by sanding the sites straight. This was also necessary as the trap door wouldn't fit in the opposite direction due to inaccuracies.

Taking off a little bit more and touching up seems the key to a good final look. For example I used a tiny drill for the first pilot hole - and the resin split when I inserted the screw. I used a bigger drill (2.5mm) for the three other holes and also didn't worry to drill through.

I will be looking for some smaller hinges - and even more importantly - smaller screws. Last time I needed some I couldn't get smaller screws as the ones I used. At least not at the DIY shop - but maybe this was the wrong shop to look at.

In regard to a train shop. There is a really good one where my parents live - unfortunately nothing around my place here. But I try to visit train shops whenever I have the opportunity. Unfortunately I can't tell someone to get me this or that as I have to see it to judge if it is useful or not (see my visit to the haberdashery).

The next more challenging trap door project will be the corridor trap. You can only reach from one site and it needs two hinges - one on each site. There I certainly will need something to make a more narrow cut.

But you only learn by trying it.

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Wereweasel

Mentioning the drawbridge was mean : I'm now on my third design (in my head only so far) and see this as a challenge ...

Yes - a drawbridge sounds cool and should be possible using the hinges. I will post photographs should I actually get around making it.

Thod

(with many other ideas and not enough time to do them all)
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hehehe

Don't mention it. :D

For the record, I found it to be one of those little projects that continues to get better the more I ponder it.


BTW, the larger fence pieces I referred to (for the drawbridge) are made by Model Tech Studios and are labelled as item # OD 2024. You get four lengths per package.


After putting that project right "back on the burner" myself, I am now considering an axle solution that would allow the bridges (or platforms) to be attached to many different pieces easily using eyelets -or similar hardware.

I just came up with this (axle) option only about an hour ago, so I thought I'd pass it along for feedback and/or suggestions.


Thod, my apologies for straying off topic, if I find anything else useful to post about the drawbridges I'll start another thread for it.

Thanks again.

Steve, (aka WW)
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A new toy for Christmas - got a Dremel - first time use 7 Years, 11 Months ago  
Thod -


www.micromark.com

Will take you to an on-line shop that has all the tiny little hinges and screws you could ever want for this stuff. They also have about every tool we will ever need for 'kitbashing' (or as someone put it, 'kratzerizing') DF! They are NOT the cheapest place to shop, but they DO carry a LOT of goodies for model work. You WILL need a credit card to shop there, but they are honest people with your money, which is a pleasant relief with all the phishing and other scams out there these days.
One thing they have is REAL FINE drill bits and screws; that will help you prevent cracked DF pieces in future. They also have dust masks, which I sincerely hope you took to heart when Myrthe mentioned it; Resin dust WILL KILL YOU if you inhale too much of it, and each individual person has their own 'too much' level. 'Nuff said on that!

Welcome to the world of modifications; having started this journey, you will never be satisfied with box-stock again, I guarantee it! From now on, the ONLY thing that will stop you customizing DF (and any OTHER models you buy) will be the certain knowledge that either the maker is already working on what you have in mind, or Mrs. Thod bought it for you as a gift and if you value your life, you'll leave it stock! The first works because if they're already making it, why waste your time on it, and the second works because, if you're dead, you can't bash any more kits!

Happy New Year!

Jim
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#20774
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Jim

Happy New Year to you as well - I should have known I can rely on you. I had a browse - looks really nice all the stuff at MicroMart. But I'm not tempted - to much hassle to import from the US. Therefore will need a similar supplier here in Europe - ideally in the UK. Anyhow - the best pieces of scrap-building are just done with everything you have readily available - see answer to Wereweasel below.

Oh - and you have been absolutely right - my first idea was to convert the DF log trap into a draw bridge. Cut out the bottom and use the bit where the log is placed for the log to roll up the chain. But missus wouldn't allow me to katzerzing this particular piece - we have it only once and even mentioning - it is in stock at Otherworld didn't help.

Wereweasel

In regard to the drawbridge - I've done it. Half an hour ago and it is now in working order. I still need to take the dremel out - I build it a little bit too tight and would like to sand off a tiny wee bit here or there.

And of course - it needs painting and a proper set-up.

But here is a teaser photo already. As I will be at work from tomorrow onwards my time is over where I just could build and build. I therefore don't expect it to be painted and placed in a nice layout before the weekend. So stay tuned ...

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#20775
A new toy for Christmas - got a Dremel - first time use 7 Years, 11 Months ago  
Thod -

NOW is your chance to 'bop' that lizardman and eliminate ONE enemy! I LOVE that pic!
Couldn't see a LOT of detail in the bridge itself, but what I CAN see looks good!

I really hope SOMEONE 'Over There' opens or better-publicizes a hobby shop outlet similar to Micro-Mark for you Euro-types; you Need and DESERVE a shop with those resources. And, of course, DF needs a European distributor that both DF and the Disty can be profitable with!

Fingers crossed for a productive and profitable 2007 for DF and all their fans, worldwide!

See ya!

Jim
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#20776
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Jim

That's the whole idea of a teaser photo - not to reveal too much :D

I didn't want to reveal the whole bridge before it is painted. As I mentioned earlier - I was stopped to kratzerize the log trap - I therefore used the fall back position and used Hirst Arts blocks. The core of the bridge you see is blue foam. I added planks from the wooden plank mold around it and on one site inserted the hinge.
Actually this was the only time I used the dremel to shave away some blue foam. I had a few planks left over from my 'ice set'. This proved handy as I used them in key places where I wanted to drill / insert some screws.
The whole construction is two parts. One 'bridge' with railing but missing the floor part and two small watch houses with the mechanism to draw up the actual bridge.

I might have a chance to paint it up tonight - fingers crossed.

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#20777
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Jim

I found a supplier in the UK. It;s not as good as Mikro Mart - but certainly a start. In case other here are interested:

www.ema-models.co.uk/

2Wereweasel - I'm now 95% finished with the painting. The last step will be reassembling the chain - oh - and making a nice layout for photos. I should get this done on the weekend. So far the construction seems sturdy - it survived my son ;-)

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Thod,

I can't wait to see the finished piece!

About the sturdiness: If that means it survived a 2-3 year old, then it's probably closer to being inderstructable. ;)
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