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Workshop - The Grand Stairway Project 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
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(correction - for some reason the last picture comes first. Hmm - I'm sure I selected them the other way round ... I've corrected the numbers in the posting)

For some pictures in a DF surrounding have a look at the Ork Raid on the Evil Palace. But I thought I give here some more background to the Grand Stairway project. I know - a lot people here have asked Stefan for a Grand Stairway. Maybe this will help to push it a little bit.

I used some Hirst Arts molds to build the Stair Way. After all - I'm not Stefan and have his talent to sculpt something.

Picture 2 shows the original design. To make it flexible I decided to make is as modular as possible. The whole stair are actually 9 different pieces.

Picture 3 shows the 4 different individual pieces. I use 4 stairs (two in front, 2 sideways), 2 round stairs, 2 pedestals and one flat stair. You can make the whole stair wider by adding more stairs and pedestals. Placing two stairs back to back gives you a nice raised area - ideal for an altar or throne.

Picture 4 introduces two more pieces. The dragon foot is a nice variation (and it allowed me to cast faster).

Picture 5 shows both pieces on their own. Here I goofed. The small step should allow for wider upper stairs but I did the first upper one with round corners in a single piece. I intend to make the next one in two pieces - left and right - to allow for 'growth' between them.

Picture 6 added a railing. Still the same pieces from the first picture. Just rearranged.

Picture 7 is the railing siteways. When I had done the railing I tried it with the DF stairway. The DF stairway is more flat and had raised areas inbetween. To correct for this I added an extra piece to make the railing longer. See the Ork raid how I used it. The other way round and this can be used as ordinary wall.

Picture 8 was not originally part of the stairway project. I made the steep staris because I could and was having spare blocks. Very late I added a railing as well and I now like this design even more as the first railing I did. This is the only stair which dosen't stand on it's own. Actually it caused problems after varnish as it tended to slip. 2 small pieces of black rubber did wonder and it is standing pretty well now.

Picture 9 shows another side product. You can also see this stair in the Ork raid as well. The nice bit about this stair - it fits nicely into a normal corridor.

Picture 1 so far all the bright bits. I shouldn't finish without adding the deep psychological scars the project left on my kids when I was casting and painting and not paying attention to them. Here is my daughter with her own design. Actually this is the second design of hers - bad daddy didn't take a photograph of the first one.

Maybe this can reignite some whishes for a Grand Stairway. Done modular enough it will allow many different designs and could even re-use some existing stock (the current stairs, the pedestal which is exatly the size of mine). Just a railing would already go quite a way. While it was fun to do and to design I'm aware not many here would like to start casting their own blocks. And while I managed to do quite a few spare windows while casting for the stairs which should go to eBay now to finance my next project I'm not planning to do thie stairway project project again.

Originally I had also intended to write a story - the Stairways to Heaven - with 7 different stairway designs - on seven different days. One part of the stort revealed each day. 2Dante - sorry - this will get delayed now. I did the pictures for day 1 - and when I started building this morning to check out designs for the final day I got carried away and something a little bit different was done in the end. And I couldn't resist to get the Ork raid posted. I still want to do the story - one day ...

Thod








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#18592
Workshop - The Grand Stairway Project 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Thod -

Some GREAT engineering on those various stairway parts; seriously.
One question; why not just glue up the pieces in Photo #8 to make a staircase? It would be much easier than suffering with rubber skidpads. Or at least, I think it would.

Anyway, excellent work. next question is this: has your little one started playing Kindergarten-level D&D yet, or is she still in the Engineering phase of the game? She seems to have the knack for the design stage of the game, anyway!

See ya!

Jim
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#18593
Workshop - The Grand Stairway Project 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Jim

Gluing them together would be a bad idea. You lose the flexibility that way. You can use a single of the stairs sideways in a normal passage to get a 90 degree turn. Won't fit with a railing and you won't get on the stair without climbing sideways over the stair. Straight it fits into a narrow passage - again - with railing no chance - too wide. And with railing - how many would you glue together. 2 - would be the most likely case - but if you want to go grand you can't just slip in a third one in the middle.

And I like the view below the stair that this is not solid either - you won't spot this with a railing always attached.

The simpler alternative is to make the stair solid. The main reason why I haven't done that is of practical nature. I do cast the individual stones. And the solid stairbuilder was used many times over for my other grand stairway design. This design I could do 'for free' while casting the other.

Yes - the skid pad isn't ideal - but I would have to make a customized mold to overcome my lack of the right pieces in the right number. Maybe one day - it would make the process to much faster. But for the time being I use the HA molds as they are sold - and try to make usage of as many pieces as possible. Actually the dragon foot design started as some 'spare' blocks for which I looked for a purpose. Now I like this design better as the original one.

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Oh. Sorry; I really wasn't criticizing, so I hope you didn't take it as such. I was more curious than anything else.
And ALL the stairs DO LOOK GOOD!!!
I have some of the HA molds (none for fantasy; all sci-fi), but I haven't had the time/ambition to do anything with them - yet.

See ya!

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