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#13000
First Pillars 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
WOOOOW!!! I'd order two packs of eight!!! Unpainted or painted....! Great work...
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#13001
First Pillars 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Okay...

On the subject of making these commercially.

1) I did ask GW - specifically I talked to a mate who works there. He asked a 'suit' who said okay, so long as they were only for my use. They aren't *exact* copies of anything in either the film or GW's interpretation of same, so I *might* get away with it - more likely to get away with it than Thomarillion's stuff, a lot of which *is* a direct rip-off of the film. But they are 'in the style of' and, in copyright terms, are probably 'derivative works' - which means I ain't got the right to reproduce them commercially.

2) I had them cast up as a favour. I probably could get them done commercially, but do I really want to go down that road?

3) I might 'rob' sales from Stefan and Jeff. DF is their baby, and I don't want to steal sales from them by producing 'rival' products which are 'compatible' with theirs - and my pillars are, even more than the bridge - they're the right height for stacking, etc.

Summing all that up, I'm afraid that my conscience won't let me sell them - though it is very tempting.

Sorry!

Phil
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#13002
First Pillars 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Phil,

It's obviously your decision whether you provide other DF users with copies of your work or not, but I think you might be over-reacting slightly with regards to GW. The pillars are your own work, both in design and construction, and very little to do with GW. It's about time that we honest, creative gamers stood up to their bullying tactics and told them to kiss our collective arses! They didn't invent gaming, and they certainly don't have copyright on stone pillars!

PS. I don't like Games Workshop, can you tell?
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#13003
First Pillars 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
It's obviously your decision whether you provide other DF users with copies of your work or not, but I think you might be over-reacting slightly with regards to GW. The pillars are your own work, both in design and construction, and very little to do with GW. It's about time that we honest, creative gamers stood up to their bullying tactics and told them to kiss our collective arses! They didn't invent gaming, and they certainly don't have copyright on stone pillars!
Point taken. But I freely admit that the pieces are derived from designs in the movies - I spent ages looking at stills and stuff on the DVDs - and I'd hate to have NLP come after me...

Or have GW come after me having been told to by NLP.

PS. I don't like Games Workshop, can you tell?
LOL!

But I'm still not happy that it's a good idea - not least because I need DF - I make the odd bit, in a fairly amateurish way - there's no way I can rival DF. If I 'steal' sales from DF, it doesn't help them to be profitable. If they go down the tubes, I can't get my hands on gorgeous stuff like the Cavernous Rivers. I may be reasonably good at making certain things, but I don't have Stefan's talent - I couldn't make anything half as nice as the Cavernous Rivers.

Phil
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#13004
First Pillars 8 Years, 7 Months ago  
Man, Thank you so much Phil, I'm blushing...but I think you did a great job on those pillars...I would even ask (and pay you) to use them for a future WI set, but yes, I'm sure DF would get in pretty big trouble for that because they are pretty similar to the ones in the movie...anyway, I am a huge Tolkien Fan (the books) and may sometime dream up my own version of what Dwarven Architecture should/would look like...perhaps in the not so far future?...

Once again, great job!

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