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#11055
Yet Another New McFarlane Dragon 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
It's time for your Regularly Scheduled McFarlane Dragon Update! There's a new boxed set in town, and like the last one, it's not really in scale with 25-30mm figures. However, unlike the last one (which had a mounted knight that was rather necessary to the display, which would both look funky and be unstable if you removed the knight) this time you can easily remove the mounted figure and his saddle and it should still look good. You won't be able to put them back, as you'd have to snip off the harness etc, but you could do it.

It's a well-posed, very traditional looking dragon this time, with a vaguely purple-blue-grey tone to it. VERY big, though not as large as some of the first McF dragons, its pose is extraordinarily appropriate to a "scare the @#$%@#$ outta your players" kinda moment -- this thing just sweeping over them from outta nowhere.

Enjoy, sorry for the sub-par pics but I didn't have time to set everything up ideally, so I just quickly snapped a few shots in my very disorganized improvised DF "display"....

L



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#11056
Yet Another New McFarlane Dragon 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Hey Law!

The Dragon looks good, even though it's clearly oversized for our scale.
But THEN, I saw your Miniatures shelf!!

Holy Bejabbers, Batman! LOOK at all those minis!

I'm jealous. But then, I haven't been collecting for a bazillion years, either.

Like some people I know!

Setup's good, dragon's great, collection's AWESOME!

Happy gaming, guy.

See ya!

Jim
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#11057
Yet Another New McFarlane Dragon 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Hey L where in mass do you live again so i can nip by one day and steal your minis ;)

Just kidding.

really i am.

Yeah i like the look of this dragon better than the last, i went out and got one a few weekends ago, i ended up with the water one, becuase i wanted to use it for something (and think it will look cool when the cavernous rivers finally come out), but i am sorry to say they choice of joints on this has reconfirmed my total lack of respect for most of the McCrap toys. The water dragon has joints on the tail, where the the flippers join the body and like one other spot. All 5 of which if you do move them to put them in a pose make it go from streamlined to a +, the joints make the body parts go perpendicular to each other.
And there are none in the arms, you can't move the shoulders, which i found out the hard way on one, i tried to move it, didn't even out much preasure on it (saw the line thought it would turn), and instead it snapped off in my hand!

While the stuff looks nice it is made really crappy.
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#11058
Yet Another New McFarlane Dragon 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Oh, definitely. I think these are ideal for gamers because

1) Miniatures aren't articulated. So while toy collectors may cry foul, people used to buying Reaper and GW aren't going to be bugged if a guy's arm doesn't move.

2) Miniatures usually require glue. If I have to glue on a broken leg on my McF figure, it is much the same as having to glue a shield onto a miniature. I expect it.

3) Miniatures cost a TON more. Dragons like this, as we've pointed out in the past, are usually at LEAST $20, and typically much, much more. For $11, the McF dragons are a sweet deal. Even at $18, this guy is pretty amazing -- and he's more sturdy and easier to store than a comparable metal dragon from Reaper.

As toys, this stuff is close to garbage. But as minis for use with DF? Fantastic.

L
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#11059
Yet Another New McFarlane Dragon 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Oh, definitely. I think these are ideal for gamers because

1) Miniatures aren't articulated. So while toy collectors may cry foul, people used to buying Reaper and GW aren't going to be bugged if a guy's arm doesn't move.

2) Miniatures usually require glue. If I have to glue on a broken leg on my McF figure, it is much the same as having to glue a shield onto a miniature. I expect it.

3) Miniatures cost a TON more. Dragons like this, as we've pointed out in the past, are usually at LEAST $20, and typically much, much more. For $11, the McF dragons are a sweet deal. Even at $18, this guy is pretty amazing -- and he's more sturdy and easier to store than a comparable metal dragon from Reaper.

As toys, this stuff is close to garbage. But as minis for use with DF? Fantastic.

L

You know this may explain a few things in my mind set, I look at it from the other end... I don't expect to glue things. The number 3) is why for the past 5 or so years toys have been my miniature of choice, ever since i started using "miniatures".

I came from toy collecting first then into Miniatures. While I started playing D&D back in the 80's (1980), and over the years bought a few miniatures that i thought looked like my character (have one of a dwarf that i played for years and was really fond of). We never used them for the RPG. Back then we never got into the need for minis or terrain. It wasn't untill d20/3.0 that we really started using any terrain or minis in a BIG way. I mean we would occasionally use some micro machines for representation of placement in the Star Wars D6 games, but that was it.

But starting in like 1990 I wanted to complete my collection of Star Wars toys so started hitting Yard Sales,then into E-bay etc, and this was the time that a lot of other people were doing the same type of thing and started the whole toy collecting craze. While I admit i like articulation, i think it should look good on the figure, and not be there so you can brag it has 22 points of articulation, i admit i don't mind the 5 points on the original Kenner SW figs, GIJOE were always funny looking (the knees and the elbows they looked bad to make the joints and articulation, while yeah the sculpts on the vintage SW could be better, i would rather have a good looking fig than 20 points of articulation, Hasbro has done a decent job of blending scuplt and articulation... but that's another thread). For me and having a Pretty decent collection of Toys i see these as pure crap toy wise, but agree they make great Miniatures, but then i have been using toys for miniatures from pretty much the start of using miniatures.

When d20 happened we started to use "minis" more, the AoO and a number of things made it much more relavent, but we were using SW action figures for the SW battles, and Reaper for D&D. And i even kept using Toys a lot we used toys more than we did minis in D&D becuase We/i HAD the toys and working at a ToysRUs, could get them Darn easy. Or I went to a lot of Dollar Store toys, for items like animals and Dinos, (loved the whole line of Animal Planet TRU carried a few years back, got tons of Lions, Tigers bears oh my for D&D) some buildings etc, not wanting to shell out the money for a metal miniature of an Elephant i had to paint and glue together when i could just buy it and 13 other Safari animals or 14 horses for $5 that were painted. Yeah i based a bunch of them but was so glad never had to paint them unless i wanted to. Becuase of that i tend to think in the reverse way, if i have to glue it, it's broken.

I have Never been a fan of the minis you have to glue together, hated the orignal D&D WotC metal mins becuase you had to glue so many of them, Chainmail was an interesting idea i liked the concept of the game, never been a fan of wargames, but the smaller skirmish seemed interesting and it was tied to a product line i liked, so i checked it out but in the end it was one i passed on becuase of the glueing and painting. I had jumped on mage knight and Hero clicks when they came out becuse they were pre-painted, bought individual pieces mind you Never played mage knight, ripped them off the Wizkid bases and glued them onto wooden discs for figures when we started using minis a lot, While i own a number (maybe 60 reaper) the time factor and such was too high, maybe 10 are painted. For me it's mot worth it to go to the trouble of buying a metal mini for a number of things (the genric grunts, characters yeah i would buy a metal) To the point that i still do it today with MK and HC and even Mech Warrior they make great droids in SW (but now use GW bases so they fit in better).

If i have to do more than glue it to a base, i think i have the mind set it is a "Broken" Toy (man remember doing a lot of refurbing and glueing some SW toys together to get fleets of X-wings etc out of parts lots cheap), becuase that is where i got my start, which kind of makes me think i am the target market for D&D minis. People who like the world (why i gave Chainmail a look) but with one or more of the following neither the time, the patience, desire, to paint and glue minis. But also makes me look at these from a different point of view. I like the idea of toys and minis, and tend to think if minis as just another type of toy.
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#11060
Yet Another New McFarlane Dragon 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
It's time for your Regularly Scheduled McFarlane Dragon Update! There's a new boxed set in town, and like the last one, it's not really in scale with 25-30mm figures. However, unlike the last one (which had a mounted knight that was rather necessary to the display, which would both look funky and be unstable if you removed the knight) this time you can easily remove the mounted figure and his saddle and it should still look good. You won't be able to put them back, as you'd have to snip off the harness etc, but you could do it.

It's a well-posed, very traditional looking dragon this time, with a vaguely purple-blue-grey tone to it. VERY big, though not as large as some of the first McF dragons, its pose is extraordinarily appropriate to a "scare the @#$%@#$ outta your players" kinda moment -- this thing just sweeping over them from outta nowhere.

Enjoy, sorry for the sub-par pics but I didn't have time to set everything up ideally, so I just quickly snapped a few shots in my very disorganized improvised DF "display"....

L

I love the view from above pic, and also showing your collection on the side, waiting for deployment,he,he,he...

Perhaps I should post a pic from my collection, I remember being asked at one time, but in a section where you couldn't post pics...

Stefan.




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#11061
Yet Another New McFarlane Dragon 8 Years, 6 Months ago  
Wow! The Dragon is great but the setup below is to be considered... awesome! I like it much!!
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I want my DF Spiderweb Accesories Set!!! ^O^U
 
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