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#10852
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 9 Months ago  
Jim,

Thanks for the tutorial. I plan on doing this in a week or so. You and IO are truly my inspiration. I hope you guys keep up the good work and blaze a trail for the rest of us. Thanks again.

-Darian
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#10853
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 9 Months ago  
Darian -

Be careful; my face is flaming!
Actually, IO is MY inspiration! He started this whole multi-level risers gig when he posted his pics, and now, I've had to go through the redesign twice because I thought I could make a more portable version 'on the cheap'.
Boy, did I get a wrong number! 'Sokay, having to re-engineer the design like this has been a learning experience for me, and if I can post the results the way I have been, and thereby save some OTHER poor schlub the pain, so be it! My only real complaint is that having to chisel off the collars has left a damaged ring of plexiglass on each corner; that reduces the visibility.
Oh, well.
Anyway, I've gotten more inserts, all the corners and posts are drilled, and now I can epoxy in the inserts. I still don't have enough for the entire job, but I can get farther along. I'll be posting pics from this Saturday's progress next week; I got Sandy's promise to take pics while ReBob and I are gluing inserts, and along with the posts that are complete, we should be able to do 3 levels, anyway!

See ya!

Jim
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#10854
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 9 Months ago  
Jim, thanks for the follow info. I just found a source onlne to ship me a 36" x 36" x 1/4" piece of clear acrylic for $50. I'm using it for a special project--not DF related. I figure all in all the price was (what I considered) reasonable for what I need it for. Maybe some day I'll have a crack at trying to cut a piece myself but the thought makes me a bit nervous. ;-}~
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#10855
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 9 Months ago  
Well, I'm back again.

ReBob and I finished all but one set of posts this weekend; they're all drilled out, and all but the one set, plus one additional post, have inserts epoxyied into the holes.
AND THEY WORKED!
Hallelujah!
In all seriousness, after the fiasco called 'collars', I was scared that THIS idea was going to blow up in my face. But, it seems I got away with it. Using the brass 1/4-20 threaded inserts, which are coarse threaded on the outside and 1/4-20 fine threaded on the inside, seems to be the solution. When drilling the holes for the inserts, it's important to either drill a tad bit deeper than the height ofthe insert, or be VERY CAREFUL with how much epoxy you use! If that epoxy gets in the 1/4-20 threads, you can kiss that post goodbye!
We used 5-minute epoxy, which gives you about 4 minutes working time, before it gets to stiff to spread on the outer threads of the insert. Make sure you coat the entire outside of the insert; it helps to have a piece of the all-thread screwed into the insert, both as a handle, and to keep the epoxy out of it!
Set the insert into the hole, work it back and forth once or twice to spread the epoxy evenly throughout the hole, and thread the all-thread post out of the insert. Let the insert seat fully into the hole, with NO BRASS SHOWING out of the hole. Give the epoxy AT LEAST an hour to cure (this is with 5-minute epoxy) before assembling the risers.
I should have some pics on here tonight or tomorrow night; watch this space. If I get ambitious, there may even be a couple of simple setups in them.

See ya!

Jim
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#10856
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 8 Months ago  
Hi Everyone!

Yes, the Bad Nickel returns (bad penny until inflation caught me!).

Anyway, the risers are completed, and ReBob and I have started our first layout on them. It's the setup for what we're planning for Next Year's Shore Leave (2007).
So far, we only have the village and the lowest level (the entombed starship) done; more in the coming weeks. Hey, it takes time to build things RIGHT; give us a break!
Also, I promised some of the guys I'd post pics showing how much DF stuff I've collected since 1999. Looking at the pics, it doesn't seem as much as it does when hauling it UP the cellar steps, THROUGH the living room, DOWN the sidewalk and steps, and loading it INTO the trunk of 3 separate cars - ONE handtruck-load at a time!
OOOF!
I'm curious as to how long it will take someone to find the 3 cut pieces in the SF layer and report them back to me here.
Good Luck!

See Ya!

Jim


















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#10857
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 8 Months ago  
Thanks for sharing! Wow! Okay so...can I order some risers? :) If so, for how much? What about the half-height risers? It would be great to buy some pre-built, labor and struggles behind.
I took a quick look at a local store and they wanted $50.00 for a 4'x4' sheet. I'm going to have to save and think about it some more. I'll need to re-read (several times) your instructions on how to build the risers...thanks for posting how you did it. How about some close up pics on the connecting pieces that you labored so hard to produce?

Thank you again,

John
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#10858
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 8 Months ago  
John;

$50 for a 4x4 sounds about right, depending on where you buy and how far it came from the factory. I paid @$110 for a 4x4, cut to 4 - 2x2's, with a 1 1/4" tube, 6" long, cut to 32 - 1"-long sections, and 2 - 6' long, 1" rods, cut to 8" each.
The threaded 1/4-20 brass inserts cost (I think) 50 cents/2 at Lowe's, and I used 32 of them - 16 rods, drilled and inserted both ends. I used a drill press I already had and 5-minute epoxy from the hobby shop, @$5.00.
IF the cash is available, you may want to get additional rods instead of the tubes, and have the rods cut to shorter or longer lengths, so you can have different space between levels. Plan accordingly.
I'll try to get a pic of a bare-naked rod posted sometime this week; I don't have any without inserts in them, but I can at least give you a pic of what they look like without levels and DF on one.

See ya!

Jim
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