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#10832
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Hi everyone;

Well, I did the Lucite over the weekend, and I'M pleased with the results. The fat geek with the beard is me, of course.
I used 1/4" Acrylite (the brand name for acrylic plastic from my dealer), and the collars are 18" sidewall, 1" ID; the risers themselves are 1" rod, which was actually 15/16", apparently. The plastic is rigid enough to carry the weight of @ 2 white DF box sets, and that should be enough for any setup (I hope).
The hardest part of the entire job was peeling the protective paper off the sheets! Dental surgery without anesthesia is easier!
The collars worked exactly as I wanted them to, but it was VERY necessary to mark the locations for them exactly right; otherwise, the risers would have been off-center, and things would get...wobbly, to say the least! I always knew the drafting compass set I bought @20 years ago would come in handy!
I used Tenax 7R adhesive; it's approved for acrylic plastic, and flowed right into the joints with no problems. BUT, you must wait 30 seconds-1 minute for it to set up and cure, or it WILL come loose! I fount that out the hard way.

Someone posted a question about colored Lucite for water, etc., on the Aquatic thread. The place where I got my plastic carries colored films in several colors, perfect for depicting ANY fluids, be they H2O, various hydrocarbons, or other chemically-tainted liquids. It looked like they would stick to the Lucite by static adhesion, and peel right off after the game is over.

Food (or drink?) for thought.

See ya!

Jim Kratzer





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#10833
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
BRILLIANT!!!!!

Why don’t we have a plastic supply house here in SF???? =(

Oh, that is such an improvement over our risers. Not only are they portable, but now you could have different leg heights as well. I’m blown away!

Quick questions,

1. Is there any wobble when the risers are stacked?

2. Did you cut the “1" ID"from a hollow tube or do they come that way? What’s ID mean anyway?

3. What did you cut the solid tubes with?

JK,

I just want to say looking back over the pictures again that your craftsmanship on these is nothing short of excellent. That’s even better that how I envisioned them being.

Now I’m going to post my stock picks for this year and see what you can do with them. If it’s anything like these risers…I’m a rich man!

SO :cool:,

Mike

P.S. A quick note on the hot glue. ONLY USE A DAB ON WHAT YOU’RE STICKING UPSIDE DOWN, AND ON THE ITEM, NOT THE ACRLYIC. Then let it cool on the piece for a few seconds. The glue will be pasty instead of a liquid, but will still hold items strong and the glue will roll off the acrlyic like rubber cement when finished.

Otherwise, the hotter liquid form bonds stronger and is harder to get off. It’s a messy if not damaging ordeal. It’s just annoying vs. a few seconds of glue cooling on each item first.

And one more thing, JK…let’s see a setup…
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#10834
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
How many remotes do you own?!?!
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#10835
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How many remotes do you own?!?!
I quit counting; ran out of fingers and toes. Of course, that included the ones up in the bedroom and computer room, and down in the basement.

Besides, who's counting? (SMIRK!) :lol:

On the structural side, Mike, ID stands for Inside Diameter. I bought a 6' tube, but decided that I would have the dealer do the cuts on everything (after spending $100 on the plastic, $15 on all the cuts was cheap!).

I haven't done a full stack yet, but the two-level that I photo'ed was rock solid, so I suspect that a 4-high will be okay as well, or just slightly wiggly. Five-high (bottom-level Lucite on stilts) may be a slight wobble as well, but I won't know until I try it.

Setup will have to wait until Sandy gets the Christmas garden down; D&D and HO trains don't mix very well. The damn trains keep trying to run over my miniatures, and the minis keep kicking Sandy's trains off the tracks!
Then she kicks ME out of the bedroom, and, well...

See ya!

Jim Kratzer
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#10836
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
That's a dandy solution to the stability issue. The collars allow for easy removal of levels without losing basic stability. It should stand up to even the bumps of klutzy gamers (not that any of us would EVER fail our Dexterity checks...).

When we get to Michigan, I'm checking out the local Tap Plastics, or some equivalent thereof. Wow, 3-D without the silly looking glasses!

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#10837
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Jim, these look incredible. I hope to one day have the time and resources to put some of the things I've seen here together.
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#10838
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
gi -

You can start for less and go from there; I just happened to have the dollars available when it would allow me to do the job big time.
One thing; do NOT go thinner than 1/4", nor larger than 2'x2', for the sheets. And make sure you use at LEAST 7/8" posts and 1/8"-wall collars. Otherwise, I'M not responsible for what may happen to your DF and miniatures!

About your sig line comment;
Most of it is so flat, they just want to get up there where they can see the curve!

See Ya!

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#10839
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OK, western Ohio is pretty flat, especially in NW, where the Great Black Swamp was drained. Sigh. However SE Ohio is Appalachian fun. And even Cincinnati built a landfill into a ski hill... Space, or New Zealand, sounds good. :)

Now on topic, the risers do look great, you should send all of us a set. ;)
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#10840
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Now on topic, the risers do look great, you should send all of us a set. ;)
If we can figure out a price, and a royalty to IO, you might be on to something.
Not likely, but possible; I'm basically a very lazy guy.

If IO hadn't inspired me, I probably never would have done it.

See, IO; You've started something!!

See ya!

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#10841
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Awesome Jim!
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#10842
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Jim wrote:

If IO hadn't inspired me, I probably never would have done it.
See, IO; You've started something!!

Cool, I’d just like to see what others can setup with these. Just like you’ve improved upon the risers themselves, so will the setups go too. Could you imagine what Tom could do with 6 risers and enough DF???

There’s a bunch of guys on here just itch’n to take it vertical. I see it in their builds.

If we can figure out a price, and a royalty to IO, you might be on to something.
Not likely, but possible; I'm basically a very lazy guy.

Had the serious thought for making some coins on the idea, but I’m sure these risers are niche. Theoretically, they could work for a verity of miniature games and setups, but you’d already have to be a miniature loony-toon like us to even need them. :lol: They’d be pricy too; with materials and labor (which would be us) you’d still have to charge $40-$50 for each riser to double your money. When you quoted your price for materials, was that for making four risers? I’m going to make six new risers like yours for Gen Con, and experiment with different leg heights beyond 8".

The risers are a lot of fun for sure. Just in the first three setups already they’ve already gone beyond what I imagined. I had an idea of how cool they could be, but you never really know until you see setups like this finished, or if it’s even going to work. So far DF itself has never let me down in anything I’ve possibly conceived building. I’m continued to be amazed!

Mike
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#10843
Risers Setup - The Results 8 Years, 3 Months ago  
Try something with 2.25" risers or so! You could make a descending (or ascending) dungeon that you just pull off or put on the levels. If the riser had a raised edge it woudl even hold everything in place fairly well.
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