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#7788
The beginning of the end for Dwarven Forge in Australia? 8 Years, 10 Months ago  
From the sounds of this Admin post....

dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?p=8059#8059

It would seem that if point #2 is a winner, then DF will be limited to US residents (Maybe UK), and the Ultra-rich international buyers.

That is reallly..... (Can't type what I want here for fear of being banned).

Well if that is the case, I will be selling off the Dwarven Forge items I own, as it will be a waste of time keeping them, if I can't expand on them.

This is a real shame. DF scenery is the ONE thing I am 'allowed' to spend rediculous amounts of money on. Guess I get to find another 'money-well'.

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#7789
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Darkfather

Hmm - I understand it as exactky the opposite. DF finally is working on ways to allow international shipping as well from their website. So hopefully in future you will be either able to buy as before or to buy via the web-site.

I see choice as something good. Or what do I miss ?? Wait for the announcment.

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#7790
The beginning of the end for Dwarven Forge in Australia? 8 Years, 10 Months ago  
Thod is right Darkfather; this is progress for the international buyer.
The first progress in months in dealing with international shipping, and you decide to cop out of Master Maze Darkfather.
Is there actually more to your DF product dump than meets the eye Darkfather?
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#7791
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Thod;

I seem to have missed something altogether. I thought I read that DF was trying to organise for Europe/England, not so much full international.

I hope and pray that I am wrong, as DF is my big money-well, and I would like to keep it that way.

RF;

............

Don't presume anything about me, or my reasons for doing things. If I have a reason for doing something it is the one that I state. I have no 'hidden agenda's'. Sorry, but I am not about to be your new scapegoat for anything. Please stop insinuating that I have other reasons for doing things.

Insinuating, as far as I am concerend, is a personal attack on me. My actions are not open for your brand of conversation. Please find someone else to harrass.

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#7792
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Fine Darkfather, no insinuations.
Furthermore Darkfather, I am not using you as a scapegoat.
I am just asking for answers about this thread you started.

Darkfather, you must not have understood the thread you referenced for us all?
Jeff is trying to work things out, not just for UK or European MM buyers, but for the Aussies as well.
At least he is looking into PayPal and trying to find a way to ship internationally.
Even with me being Stateside, I am thrilled that Jeff is looking into PayPal, which is much easier to use than a CC even Stateside.

Darkfather, you might have noticed that the shipping distance is a good bit less from the US to the UK, which is the gateway to Europe for most of the US, than it is to Sydney, which is the gateway to Oz for the US.
That means shipping costs are naturally going to be a bit higher going to Oz.
Why then does that cause,
. . . then DF will be limited to US residents (Maybe UK), and the Ultra-rich international buyers.
We all have to pay shipping costs on many items probably every day whether it is directly or in the price a store charges for an imported item.
Darkfather, what is the problem here then?

What is there really to truly complain about here Darkfather?
You have been telling people for months that you were getting out of the Dwarven Forge terrain anyway.
Why the additional pronouncement as if Jeff is purposely picking on you?
Honestly, I am not trying to pick on you either.
You publically posted your complaint, even made a new thread for it, and so you must have wanted comment on your course of action.
I am just trying to achieve understanding of your actions and motivations for myself and others here.
We really do not want to see you leave the fold, but if you insist, we would like to understand so that others can be helped in the future by their peers here.

G'day until we hear from you again.

EVERYONE:
Have any of you out there noticed that when you received a parcel from DF it is not from Carbondale, IL, (Jeff's place) or from NYC (Stefan's place)?
DF, like many other companies, are using a warehouse in Knoxville, TN, that functions as a fulfilment center for other companies.
This warehouse makes all of its money by storing, inventoring and shipping other companies' product.
These are the people that are having the trouble with international shipping - not Jeff & Co..
Jeff, at times, probably feels like he is beating his head on a cinder block wall trying to convince these folks to ship anything internationally.
He may even have to try to break contract with these people and set up DF's supply lines with another fulfilment center in order to make shipping possible to you international folks.
Breaking contract is never easy and almost always is not be cheap.
That will mean more money will have to be spent by DF on non-project expenses.
That will mean less money being spent on new and re- orders of MM product from the manufacturer.
That will mean less MM for us to buy.
Not a pretty picture, but Jeff is trying to help all of us that like MM.

I know most of the international DF patrons here are really gracious and will understand DF's troubles, but I hope those more self-absorbed ones will understand all of the troubles that Jeff & Co. are really going through just to try to make it smoother and easier for them to be able to make their Master Maze orders.
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#7793
The beginning of the end for Dwarven Forge in Australia? 8 Years, 10 Months ago  
RabidFox

Just let it rest. I think Darkfather just read in in a hurry and missed the Aussie bit. Remember, the posting was in a thread which started for European shipping problems only - because I didn't think about Aussie.

So I can understand if you read in a haste that you feel you are discriminated.

Was a mistake - so what. No real harm done - and I'm really glad that this finally works out. Would have needed this option a week ago - but at least I know I will get my DOE now.

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#7794
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RabidFox

Just let it rest. I think Darkfather just read in in a hurry and missed the Aussie bit. Remember, the posting was in a thread which started for European shipping problems only - because I didn't think about Aussie.

....

Thod


Sure, no problem.
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#7795
The beginning of the end for Dwarven Forge in Australia? 8 Years, 10 Months ago  
In a nutshell...

Yep, I misread the post. I appologise for my misunderstanding.

As far as getting out of DF.... not going to be any time soon, as long as I am able to build upon my already large collection.

If I can order directly from DF I will be ultra-happy. At the moment, a cavern set is costing me upward of $220AUD, the Fanatasy Floor Set upward of $80.00AUD, etc. If I can order directly from Df and the shipping isn't too much of a killer, then order from DF I will.

Again, appolgies for the misunderstanding.

Rabidfox;
All fair questions, each and every one. But I assure you, it was the 'possibility' of DF becoming an US only item that spurred on my remarks. (Yes, my remarks made when I misunderstood what I had read). Since the misunderstanding has been pointed out to me, I retract my previous rant.

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#7796
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Rabidfox;
All fair questions, each and every one. But I assure you, it was the 'possibility' of DF becoming an US only item that spurred on my remarks. (Yes, my remarks made when I misunderstood what I had read). Since the misunderstanding has been pointed out to me, I retract my previous rant.

Darkfather


No problem.
Virtual shake on it, okay?
Have a great day down on the South side.
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#7797
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I know most of the international DF patrons here are really gracious and will understand DF's troubles, but I hope those more self-absorbed ones will understand all of the troubles that Jeff & Co. are really going through just to try to make it smoother and easier for them to be able to make their Master Maze orders.


Rabid I have a problem with any poster calling out another gamer on this board as self-absorbed, much less you cast as the one accusing another of this.
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#7798
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I know most of the international DF patrons here are really gracious and will understand DF's troubles, but I hope those more self-absorbed ones will understand all of the troubles that Jeff & Co. are really going through just to try to make it smoother and easier for them to be able to make their Master Maze orders.


Rabid I have a problem with any poster calling out another gamer on this board as self-absorbed, much less you cast as the one accusing another of this.


So, you have a problem Zug.
Who cares?
Big deal!
You were not part of the conversation so why butt in?
You saying anything here is especially ridiculous since the situation is over.
Are you just trying to stir the embers into a flame Zug?
Just leave this thread alone Zug; it is resolved.
Almost anything you could further do here Zug would be a violation of the CoC, so what is the productive point Zug?
None really.
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#7799
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This squabbling back and forth is unacceptable. This thread will be locked.

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