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#44878
Re:DOE preorder questions and comments. 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
I believe the minimum order size from the supplier is much higher than what it was years ago. I'm not sure what that amount is but it sounded like it
was way too much to warrant stocking some of the speciality individual pieces.

I love individual pieces and I'm glad there are at least some new ones
we can purchase.

I'm glad European customers are getting a break because I know you guys
were hurting from shipping prices. Too bad none of that helps me :D
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#44879
Re:DOE preorder questions and comments. 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
well I own over 90 sets and am a massive fan of dwarven forge sets
my points in all this are basically
yes the price does seem to have jumped ever so much recently which is understandable to a point but I would agree that the hike is very high.

and second I bought 3 full sets of ice caverns (i had to get the you know ..itch itch) but I was quite dissapointed that it was a rehash of the old cavern sets of which I have planty.
Personally admin I hope you listen to your old and veneravble customers
lets not have any more rehash of old sets
I love what you do as you you no doubt know.
I will pre order 3 sets of the new doe soon through uncle damien but I hope in future all new sets will indeed be that and not rehash

I do love my df stuff so thanks
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#44881
Re:DOE preorder questions and comments. 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
The price of the DoE Expansion Set is as low as we can price it. Those two 4" x 4" Intersection pieces with the sliding walls are the main reason for the higher cost of this new set. They are very cool and useful pieces, and we felt they were worth including in the new DoE Expansion Set.

Due to the falling dollar and rising labor and material costs, DF's costs have greatly increased over the last 5 years. Our margins are shrinking as we are absorbing some of these costs. Our challlenge will be to make the coolest sets at the very lowest cost so we can present the lowest possible price to our collectors.

Thank you all for your patronage and support! Stefan has a few new surprises up his sleeve for this year!
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#44884
Re:DOE preorder questions and comments. 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
jls304 wrote:
I know this is a great product, I wouldn't own 40 sets if it wasnt. I do expect
prices to go up some but I want to say around 3 years ago I purchased my other
DOE sets for 89.00 and now they are 149.00? That's not exactly in line with
inflation. I realize China's middle class is exploding and production costs
are rising but I still think thats a huge jump. It's not any of
my buisness how you run your company but I just had to voice my frustration.


You can't just look at an overall inflation number. That only gives you a picture of what a society as a whole is paying in increased costs. The actual relevant inflation numbers come from specialized labor + the increase in the commodities price index (whichever specifics they may be.) I have programmers in a developing country that were expecting 10%+ raises every single year. That compounds really fast.

So yeah Dwarven Forge sets are expensive, but look at comparison products. There are companies selling non-modular wargame pieces for anywhere from several hundred to thousands of dollars.

When I get out my brush and start painting miniature figures and scenery, it takes me days of work. The $200 I spent on a shipment of minis can roll in to 100 hours of personal labor. Even at minimum wage that comes out to $1000. Take a look at the Hirt Arts forums, its not uncommon for someone to work a year on what might be 2 Dwarven Forge sets of pieces.

My conclusion, Dwarven Forge is still cheap.

Who is expensive? How about Games Workshop doubling prices for stuff you glue together 80 tiny pieces, paint, and possible fix (so I've heard.)

The only practical advice I can give is for Dwarven Forge to cut set sizes in half. You don't need to have a massive dungeon all pre-set up to play. I certainly hope that sets keep selling in a way that makes business viable. Clearly these guys re-invest a great deal of money and effort in the business as the wide variety of sets prove. If paying a little more for a set today means more great new sets in years to come, you won't find me complaining.
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#44889
Re:DOE preorder questions and comments. 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
Perhaps it is time to look to a new emerging market to produce your sets? My brothers have started this process and it resulted in a price break from their Chinese suppliers. Just a thought.
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#44894
Re:DOE preorder questions and comments. 2 Years, 8 Months ago  
I too would love to see some more individual pieces for sale, and would pay a higher premium per piece to get them. It's not only the cost of buying whole sets, but storage space becomes an issue, too! :)
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