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#36297
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
I agree with Brett King about the eye candy element, although they should also be useful in the way jackattack said. So I won't refrain my desperate pleas for a rereleased keystoneless diagonal walls set and a similarly keystoneless short passageways set. Oh, I just did.

I would love to see the things mentioned in the OP. Is there a firepit square anywhere? I'd like to see one of those. How about some water tiles, same thickness as the floor tiles, and in a few sizes? Maybe that's more of an AB3 thing.
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#36298
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
My opinion would be to focus on multiple uses
Some pieces are cool, but I barely use them since they have too specific use. Pieces that could be used in multiple ways are bettter. The devil mouth door from previous WA is very nice, but I rarely use it.

1x1 tiles can be used in multiples ways, a fountain can't
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#36299
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
Anybody have ideas for a modification to a Short Passage Piece? We are thinking about including some Short Passage Pieces since those are often requested, but I was trying to come up with some modification to make them more useful -- like a Secret Door or torches.

Any ideas?
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#36300
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
On one (or both) of the walls:

Mirror

Painting

Shelf

Lever

3 buttons

With a floor design?

Webbed?

Slime/water dripping down wall

One wall section caved in/caved out

With semicircular sewer grates at the base of either or both walls
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#36301
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
Anybody have ideas for a modification to a Short Passage Piece? We are thinking about including some Short Passage Pieces since those are often requested, but I was trying to come up with some modification to make them more useful -- like a Secret Door or torches.

Any ideas?

Torches would be sweet. But I still really want a set with a significant number of standard short passage pieces in, like 30 (because as I said, without it the R&P set is of somewhat limited use as I can't make many straight passageways...). But there I go again! For the WA, I guess a hanging tapestry or some wall art would be out of the question, but a secret door would be cool. As would some wall slime. Mmmm, wall slime.
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#36302
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
Anybody have ideas for a modification to a Short Passage Piece? We are thinking about including some Short Passage Pieces since those are often requested, but I was trying to come up with some modification to make them more useful -- like a Secret Door or torches.

Any ideas?

How about just an arched doorway for one or both walls? That way you could have a room right up against the archway without requiring a T connector.

Also, if you go with my magnet-in-the-wall idea, you could put it in room or passage pieces, and attach any accessory you wanted, as long as it has a metal backing piece.
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#36303
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
My opinion would be to focus on multiple uses
Some pieces are cool, but I barely use them since they have too specific use. Pieces that could be used in multiple ways are bettter. The devil mouth door from previous WA is very nice, but I rarely use it.

1x1 tiles can be used in multiples ways, a fountain can't

I see your point, but to me that sounds like the difference between Advanced Builder sets and Wicked sets. True, the original Wicked sets did have "useful" pieces. But that was before ABS existed.

I would like to keep "useful' but non-exciting pieces -- like 1x1 tiles -- in the ABS sets. Pieces that are highly specific and only have 1 use can go in the Wicked sets.

There are degrees of "specific" -- a throne or a wizard's bookshelf is very, very, very specific. But a cool staircase or fresco or, yes, even fountain is less specific. I'm not saying we NEED another fountain -- but I think there's a happy medium where a piece is versatile enough that it doesn't tie you down to just one possible use, and yet not so generically useful that it is totally invisible in the final display.

Again, I really want the Wicked sets to be packed with pieces that make someone who has never used DF say "Wow, they make THAT?!" A secret door, a spiral staircase, a demon archway. Nobody is going to be blown away and say "Wow, I must spend $100 on this set!" to get a 1x1 piece if they aren't already a die-hard DF user. I think the Wicked sets should be designed to draw in new customers by showing really cool highlights, not just nuts-and-bolts stuff.

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#36304
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
I would like to keep "useful' but non-exciting pieces -- like 1x1 tiles -- in the ABS sets. Pieces that are highly specific and only have 1 use can go in the Wicked sets.
I disagree with this. Columns, stairs, large floor pieces, rounded corners, pedestals, long walls, and portcullis are more essential than most of the stuff in ABS2 (and I love ABS2). ABS2 also has all those unusual doors, which are pretty specific pieces. Demon archways and mermaid fountains are flashy, but I don't use them all the time. In fact, I have about 6 demon archways now and I don't know if I've ever used them in a real game (and now I have 6 narrow magic mouth doors which I probably won't use either). Some pieces have specific uses and some are multi-functional.

We've had this discussion before:

www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=3037
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#36305
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
Anybody have ideas for a modification to a Short Passage Piece? We are thinking about including some Short Passage Pieces since those are often requested, but I was trying to come up with some modification to make them more useful -- like a Secret Door or torches.

Any ideas?

Door arches are a good idea. Singles and/or doubles.
Full-blown Stairways (straight or 90 deg curved) would be extreme awesomesauce. Better than the neat-but-not-so-useful round 180deg stairs. I can't tell you how many times I've subbed the 2x2 Cave-in corridors for stairs.
Not that big a fan of the torches, almost all of my torch wall sconces are bent flat by now.
Secret door is good.
Grated floor / grille would be nice as well.
Barred walls (single or double) for that prison motif that has been mentioned.
Windowed walls, like the Gothic ones you asked for and got the go-ahead on.

trick piece (like the "secret" of RotA) with corner pivoting wall, left or right or mini-sized RotA intersection for 2x2 with drop-in walls.
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#36306
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
But I still really want a set with a significant number of standard short passage pieces in, like 30 (because as I said, without it the R&P set is of somewhat limited use as I can't make many straight passageways...).
The ABS set comes with 3 long straight passageways ;)
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#36307
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
I would like to see transitional piece from say a room to the cavern set. A wall with a hole it allowing you the ability to have it look like someone or something dug in or out. What about a 4x4 floor piece with a whole in it? This would allow for multiple levels in gaming just not with stairs.
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#36308
WHAT TO MAKE FOR WICKED 3 FANTASY SET? 4 Years, 11 Months ago  
Short Passage Piece ideas:

1. Alcoves!
2. Short passage piece with fungus/slime or mushrooms.
3. With web.
4. Engraved with ancient runes or sculpture.
5. Short Passage piece with gothic windows.
6. Pair of large columns as a short passage.
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