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#34380
Questions / suggestions in regard to a European ditributor 4 Years, 10 Months ago  
Jeff

The VAT and higher prices are off course bad - but they shouldn't really be an issue. At the moment - when I buy from DF in the US I pay the VAT for the items AND for the shipping cost. So unless the suggestion somewhere above is taken up - to smuggle DF into the European area - there is no way to avoid the VAT (legally).

I just did a quick calculation in regard to my last order - 3 Rota 2 sets:

Total cost to UK:
$387 to DF
$191 shipping
$12.8 handling fee Parcel Force (will double if it arrives in 2 parcels)
$86.7 VAT on items and shipping

total 677.50

Depending how I calculate it this are 62.5% above list price (the is a $30 rebate) or 75% above the cost I actually pay to DF.

There will be some cost for handling / shipping / VAT in Europe - but whatever they are - the three main advantages for me will be:

1) I will save money as it will be below 62.5%
2) I will be able to order smaller numbers of sets. The above calculation is a LOT worse if I would only buy a single set
3) It just feels better (psychological) if closer to 80% of my bill is towards Dwarven Forge as 60% or less

Don't get me wrong - there still will be some grumblings around high prices. Df never will be cheap in absolyte terms. Actually it is cheap if you realize what you get. I have produced my own terrain and I know how much money goes just into the raw material - not counting time for painted terrain - and with painted I mean to a high quality. But all the three reasons above will in my mind more or less kill off new collectors - at least a lot of them.


Still - the cost will be high - DF never was cheap. This is why I said - let the collectors go out and advertise it. You don't pay 100+ Euros easily for something you haven't seen / handled / been convinced first.

All the best to get this organized

Thod
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#34381
Questions / suggestions in regard to a European ditributor 4 Years, 10 Months ago  
I will be happy if there is a European distributor. You can be sure I'll be ordering more often! The last year or so I bought more than 20 sets of DF stuff plus some on eBay just for getting them cheaper that from DF directly.

And for the price "increase" - there is none! If a buyer in Europe wasn't extremely lucky,he had to pay the VAT (19% in Germany) nonetheless and if unlucky he got charged with tax on top of it (6,x% in Germany, which is not applicable for DF stuff as "parlour games/accessories). So everything will be fine!

I guess I'll be ordering a set or so every two month to complete und upgrade my collection if you continue to release products as you do now :-D
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#34382
Questions / suggestions in regard to a European ditributor 4 Years, 10 Months ago  
i have to double what thod said.
greenknight and i make a yearly convention setup (third year now). and even though it is a very small con there are lots of people every time asking us questions what this amazing stuff is, how expensive, where to get etc. same counts for most of the people we are gaming with - rpg and tabletop at home or convention.
postings of our setups on european forums have the same reaction. most of the posters have not seen it before and one or two say it is way too expensive and hard to get (not my opinion).
i would be happy to wear a df shirt while gaming at convetions - even if i just go there and do no set up.
it also wouldn´t be any problem to hand out some flyers or place some next to our setups. even as a visitor it would be no hassel to leave some flyers at the info board. posters are also a nice idea.
i would like to help you guys. if you offer a flyer we can download i would be happy to put it next to our setups, hand it out or leave it at fitting conventions/places. same counts for posters (might be too expensive to print but look very cool next to set ups).
if you make a cool t-shirt logo/artwork to download you will soon have a df fan promo team in germany.
(if you consider doing a shirt logo please make something that works on all colors not only black - too many gamers in black shirts...)
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#34383
Questions / suggestions in regard to a European ditributor 4 Years, 10 Months ago  
White logo on blue t-shirt.
Black logo on red, orange, yellow, white, or grey tshirt.

Post a 7" wide hi-res image of the logo on the website, and we can download it and do our own iron-ons.
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