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#34203
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
OK, I have been at a quandry on making a decision on my next DF purchase.

I own 4 Sets of DoE. Thats it :( But, its a great start. I really love the sets. But I have quickly realized I need a few of the DoE Wicked Editions and/or DoE Rooms and Passages (not sure a breakdown yet) to really flesh out that lay out.

I really love the look of the RoTA stuff. And, obviously with the new release of the limited edition set, I'm very tempted. And with the whole buy 3 sets get the free entrance I'm tempted to go that route.

ALSO...I want some of the Cavern sets, and I know I will eventually be ordering them, as I see them as really useful (I would have ordered them first but since so much was out of stock I decided to start with DoE since it was on its last few sets to be available).

But of course, there is that pesky money thing that kicks in. I figure my total budget is approximately $600 that I can afford right now for my next DF purchase.

Here are the possible options I see in front of me:

3 RoTA 2 Sets
1 RoTA Set

With shipping, hits me for about $570

Next option...wait til July and Order:

2 DoE Room Sets
3 DoE Wicked Additions

My guess is approximately $560 total

Option 3

Start my quest towards Cavern Sets

3 Caverns Sets
1 Cavernous Passage Sets

This option is most expensive, and honestly I think up front least bang for buck. With shipping I'm sure this one will put me at about $630 or so.

NOW...the final piece to this puzzle is I figure I would be able to make another similar type purchase in November.

So, what do you all think?

My thoughts are: Going the DoE route goes with what I already own, and will really round out my selection for that style, perhaps even dare I say complete that run for me.

Going RoTA will start a different limited edition Dungeon setup, but more limited as to what I could do with it on the outset limited by what sets I would own. I would have to commit to at least one more future purchase of RoTA stuff.

Starting down the path of Caverns will get me a few pieces towards the collection but I will definitely need to purchase a lot more sets to get this to a usable state. I get the feeling that I will need to do 2 if not 3 more similar orders to get this to a truly great usable state.

OK Experts, please help me out and point me to the holes in my logic, what have I missed?
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#34204
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
Not by any means an expert, but am going through pretty much the same quandry as you are :) Limited cash really sucks

I went through the same quandry when DoE first came out and had many choices to make.

My decision path was finally to spend on DoE first and let the Caverns and water pieces last. Why that fashion? The DoE was a limited set and I wanted to get my hands on those before they sold out :)

So, following that logic, for your current quandry, if it were me, I would probably follow your first listed option, the ROTA sets. Why?
1] Limited edition (although, it does take a while to sell out, so there is time here)
2] More bang for buck.........with the pre-order, you get the entrance as a package deal.

Disadvantage of this path
1] These sets may be of limited use initially as ROTA2 builds on ROTA and with only one set of ROTA, the builds you get may be more limited.
2] you're left with bits of DoE and ROTA....hard to build a comprehensive set up with bits and pieces....although, if you are creative a lot can be done :)

One thing in your favour is that the availability of the entrance piece is no longer limited to pre-order time unlike previous freebies. So, if you decide against this route, you can always pick it up later, albeit at a cost.

I guess for me, with a 'small' collection at home (ie not enough for my purposes, but way too many from my wife's point of view when it comes to storage), I have the luxury of bits and pieces as I look at DF as a long term investment :) Eventually, I will have the sets I need when the money is there. So, I can be a little patient.

My second option given your circumstance would probably to do the DoE sets, leaving the cavern for later. Advantage here is that you will have more to play with and have a cohesive theme for your set ups :) And again, these sets are still ultimately limited so if you plan on getting them, perhaps getting them when you have the funds is a better way to go. And as you say, it rounds out that theme for you so you have a usable set to run with.
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#34205
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
Since you have Den of Evil already I would go with the option 2 idea.

This would be just me though. As Lupus mentioned you would probably need at least 3 of the RoTA sets to go with your RoTA II sets you are planning to get in option 1.

While getting the RoTA II at the discounted price is really appealing plus getting the entrance piece is even more appealing you should go with what you have at first. Plus there is rumor of the other DoE set or fourth foray into it is a coming.

No expert but just an opinion.

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#34206
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
What is your main objective?

If it is to enitrely flesh our one style so you have max options right now in building stuff in that one style, then I'd go the DoE route.

If its to get most bang for buck, then the RoTA pre-order deal.

If its to gain a second environment with whcih to build your dungeons, then I'd go the Cavern route. (True, there is a lot more cavern stuff to buy, but 3 Cavern & 1 Cav Pas is a very nice start and will certainly allow you to make some pretty cool cavern layouts.)

Best thing is - every choice is awesome!
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#34207
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
I think that I would go cavern, but I would take less sets of rooms and passages. Instead, I would take one lake and one river set (and even a chasm set). All of them are caverns, and let you build some pretty versatile caves using them all.

Besides, you can use river set, lake set, and chasms in the midst of other environment pieces.

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#34208
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
Thanks so much, so far you guys are validating my quandry, since as I see it each option has been chosen at least once :)

@Arsthein, I like your option but sadly the River and Wall, and Lake sets are sold out, and to my knowledge there is no date yet for a restock on those items. Honestly, I think the sold out sets is the biggest turn off towards the Cavernous route, even though it is a really cool looking set. That is why I had listed the 3 cavern and cavern passage set as those are definitely in stock right now. So, exploring this option a bit further, with the current stock available being these sets: Cavern Set, Cavernous Passage Set, Cavernous Chasm Set, and Cavernous Lake Expansion Set. What break down of those 4 sets would be a good selection for a first time foray into that set, with the approximate budget being around $600?

@Harneloot, my main objective is to have complete coverage for play environments. Honestly the cost savings (since money is a huge concern) for the RoTA stuff is a huge plus, and really gets me still thinking that route. Yes, I will not have a LOT to build RoTA with, but I save some money starting down that path now and the free entrance. Those are huge bonuses I agree, (which against proves my point on why I have this quandry).

@Lupus, I think you and I are definitely on the same mental wavelength.

@Thenorman, I'm glad that your insight fell to the DoE initially, as it does pull, because as I see it, ordering those sets in July instead of ordering other sets now would get me that complete dungeon environment. ARGH...

I wish I had more money, that would solve this issue :)
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#34209
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
If your goal is to have complete coverage, then get the 5 DoE sets and cross it off your list! No worries about it going bye-bye before you can grab yours and you can make some super kick a** evil dungeons!!!
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#34210
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
Option 2 finish the DoE line.
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#34211
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
What are your current 4 DoE sets?

Think about how you plan to use them in your home game. For me, I tend to build out one or two significant rooms per game night, as opposed to setting up a big dungeon crawl. For one or two rooms, the key is versatility and variety. You want the rooms to look really special. If you have 4 DoE Room and Passage sets, you'll get a fair amount of diversity from a just a Room set and a Wicked Editions set.

For a second set, you want to get something to enhance your DoE experience or something that provides a dramatically different environment. IMO, Temple of the Ancients is too similar in form/function to DoE and too different in style to fit either of those requirements well. So, I would recommend going the caverns route, though it will be more expensive long term. I would choose room-oriented sets, which I find I use a lot more than passage sets. I would suggest 2x Cavern sets plus one Cavernous Chasm set.

So, in summary:
- 1 DoE Wicked Editions
- 1 DoE Room Set (if you don't already have one - otherwise get a 2nd Wicked Editions)
- 2x Cavern Sets
- 1 Cavernous Chasm Set

Comes in just a bit over $600, but you'll have two sets that can work together thematically with lots of versatility in layout. Plus, you've got room to grow with the caverns set.

Good luck!
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#34212
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 5 Months ago  
@BrettKing - I have the 4 basic DoE sets, none of the additions that came out...

You make a good point regarding building a few significant rooms of the dungeon instead of the whole thing...perhaps I get caught up in the really cool pics people post of here these huge elaborate dungeons, that would literally take several game sessions to get through. Hmmm.

Also, you bring up something that makes me question this...how do people view RoTA vs DoE? Yes, they have very different looks, but is it really that bad for your dungeon crawls to be in the DoE regardless? Now the Caverns are looking more attractive...

Thankfully I have a few weeks to keep thinking about this, as the deadline for the RoTA pre-order ends like june 1st right?

Wonder if I could sell this spare kidney? :)
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#34213
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I think the best way is to get a set of each if you do not have so much money.
No need to get a huge dunjeon of 754m² to play a great adventure.
It will force you to maximize space & creation.
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#34214
Please help me decide... 5 Years, 4 Months ago  
Since I know all of you couldn't stand the drama of my choice any longer, I will let you know what I went with ;)

After much consideration and all your fine advice, I ended up with 3 Cavern Sets and 1 Chasm Set. It was the slightly spendier route, but wow, this stuff is really freaking amazing. I can't wait to get to use it!

Looking forward to adding on to these sets once some restock happens, both in the DF store and my wallet!
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