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Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Yeah, it was interesting to hear what Bruce had to say. Something along the lines of "I want this to look better and be more flexible than Dwarven Forge, or what's the point?"

Bruce, like Stefan, is an artist, and he clearly has a lot of respect for what Stefan has done with the cavern system. He really doesn't see the point in just duplicating what's already been done perfectly -- he's trying to find a way to make a different product with different features.

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#22303
Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Mr. Hirst has updated with the work he has been doing over the past 3 weeks, right now it is looking like decent addation bits.
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Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Thanks for the heads up. I have to say, I kinda like it.

I have toyed with the idea of picking up fieldstone molds for ages, since they'd allow me to make DF-style pieces, and to incorporate HA architectural elements, like columns and arches, into walls that match the DF walls. Right now, my HA additions stick out like sore thumbs, since the walls are made of rectangular blocks.

I have also eyed the SF stuff, which looks mighty purty.

But, for whatever reason, I have yet to take the plunge. It's a lot of work and time and I had a blast with the molds I own a few years ago, but I haven't wanted to commit that much energy to a new project.

Looking at these cavern elements, though.. .hmmm... It looks like a good way to get an endless supply of cool cavern accessories for my DF set. Cool stalagmite accessories, just generally neat stuff. Some of them would even look cool emerging from the water...

Yeah, I'll be watching to see what the final molds allow...

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Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
I think this thread only underscores the need, (and interest) for a Cavernous WA Set.

Hopefully, there will be one sooner rather than later.
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#22306
Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
I got to say I hope not sooner, i can't afford the releases at this rate. ;)
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Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
I agree Wereweasel - we really need a Cavernous WA set.

Sooner the better!!!
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#22308
Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
L, speaking about the starship molds, the main reason I haven't bought any of the SF sets from DF is because I'm not too keen on the colours, as I prefer a much darker environment. Getting into the AT-43 game I finally got around to buying a few of the HA SF molds, and I'm right now busy with making a total of 48 4x4 inch flats with separate wall sections for an AT-43 factory environment. Some of them have been featured on the Rackham forum, and just to show what can be done, here is a link to one of the images:

www.geocities.com/willypold/hirstarts_images/img_9622.jpg

Right now I'm spending my money on HA for the things I can make myself, and on DF for the stuff I can't make - like the caverns and the river and lake sets. So what can I say? More caverns and more cavernous water stuff! :-)
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#22309
Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Wow, that's pretty impressive. Did you post some of this ont he HA forums? I remember someone posting something vaguely similar.

I have to say, the HA SF stuff is darn impressive. I've held back for a few reasons:

1. Too much time involved -- it takes over your life, or at least it does with me. Don't have time or energy for it right now.
2. Too difficult to store. I know, I've accumulated a TON of DF lately -- but still, it took me just a few months to max out how much fantasy HA I could store. I've had to get rid of a lot of it, and I can't see myself rapidly accumulating SF stuff now.
3. SF needs to be backburnered. With the amount of DF I own, with DoE and MBS and the cavernous water sets PLUS even more -- I had to draw a line in the sand. I have so much fantasy stuff, and the only SF stuff I have are a handful of GW things (Cadians, some necrons, some tyranids) and SW minis. I just have to hold back where possible. And eventually I'm sure I'll get the SF furnishings from DF, so I need to pick my battles even more.

But the number 1 reason (or, to be more accurate, I guess the number 4 reason) I've held off is that the SF molds seem to be a lot more labor/thought intensive than the fantasy molds. The fantasy stuff, you just instantly assemble a room with columns and arches, it's pretty obvious how to put things together, what you want, how it will look. The SF stuff, on the other hand, is a lot trickier -- lots of smaller pieces that, assembled in the right order, make a cool piece of furniture or room design. You have to think a lot more, it seems, about how to put things together, where they should go. And, at the end of the day, while the pieces are "busier" than the DF pieces, they aren't any more "room specific," not really. It's not like I look at the HA stuff and think "Oh, if I got that I could make an X room..." There are some pieces that lend themselves to that -- those cool rounded elevators/transporters, and so on. But no mold is just "starship bridge mold," or "smelting factory mold," you know what I mean? Even the ones that are identified as a particular scheme, like a cargo area, have more generally useful pieces.

In the end, I mean this as a compliment -- the molds give you general enough pieces to be really flexible and useful, so you can make a ton of different stuff with them. It's actually a GOOD thing. But because you have so much freedom, and so much flexibility, you kinda have to think long and hard about WHAT you want to make, and how you need to fit things together. It also seems like, to get maximum value, you need at least 3 or 4 of the molds.

So -- given how much thought and energy I'd have to put into it, how difficult it would be store it all, and how rapidly my collection would grow if I allowed myself to plunge further into SF, I just can't let myself get tempted by those molds. But there's no denying that they are really fantastic. If I were a hardcore SF gamer, I'd be mighty tempted. DF seems to have relinquished this particular genre, which is a shame, but it may be that the hardcore SF players just never warmed to the DF model to begin with, and so it was never in the financial best interests of DF to travel too far down that road.

I seem to have strayed from, you know, a point. Clearly I am procrastinating and must get back to work now.

Anyhoo, very impresive stuff, willy -- awe-inspiring designs and paintjobs.

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Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
Storage is a problem, of course, less so with DF, as it is lot more robust - you guys wouldn't believe how I store my DF!

Anyway, comparing the two systems it is easy to get carried away with the HA molds, because as soon as you have bought the molds, there is only the cost of the plaster and some paint. I'm glad I have an understanding wife, who thinks highly of my creative outbursts... :-)

Yes, I have a couple of posts on the HA forum too, and the name is the same.

By the way, talking about water...

geocities.com/willypold/hirstarts_images/img_9839

The little bridges hide the rather unseemly edges along the open water ends – I am most impressed by the quality of the DF water sets!
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#22311
Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 9 Months ago  
It's actually the SF that made me take the plunge into HA, with out it i never would have, i wanted to make sow things that complemented the DF but didn't exist. I wanted massivly wide corridors, and rounded features which the HA has. The work i did with it got some one else in the group interested enough to buy the Fieldstone molds. And we worked out a deal, i cast, and he puts them together.

(i'm not married and have more hobby room than him so take up lots of space casting, and just give them to him and he makes stuff for the game with them.)
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#22312
Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
"File's Don.." er sorry channeling AOL.

Mold's Done.

Two actually. More Accesory bits, they look interesting and i may buy them. Was a bit more interested in the walls though. Oh well if i get a new contract i'll be buying them ;), and some more DF.
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Hey Stefan...looks like Bruce Hirst could use a hand? 7 Years, 8 Months ago  
Wow! Those really look amazing. And for the first time, it's something outrageously useful and relatively easy to use for DF fans! Instead of trying to make walls that fit in with DF walls, you can just make accessories! These would be perfect for any DF cavern, I'd think. I am not sure that I'd need to get BOTH cavern molds, but at least one of them feels like an instant classic for adding all sorts of intriguing variety to our DF caverns. Very nice stuff!

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