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#21963
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
I would love to see a module castle sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces / grand stair cases / moats / drawbridge / porticullis) ect. Right now I know there are molds available online for making similar items, but I would prefer module pieces ready to use out of the box.
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#21964
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
I will have to second that wish-list request!

A castle design from Stefan would surely be something to get excited about.

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#21965
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
I seem to recall Stefan posting that sometihng like this was in the works.

That is to say, he mentioned an interest in a modular tower set, which is in some ways all we'd need to do castles -- as we can do the rest with regular Df.

I doubt DF wants to move into the realm of complete castles, modular or not, simply because it wouldn't really "work" with other DF sets, and that makes it less of an extension and more a whole new business model. Plus, as people often point out, there are plenty of places to get that sort of thing. GW makes a plastic castle set, in components, and MBA has a modular castle set, and there is always HA. That's enough competition.

In general, it seems like DF wants to keep the 1" high wall "footprint" for DF. It keeps all sets consistent, allows for maximum interplay between them, which a lot of us like. It keeps older sets from feeling "outdated" or "obsolete" like older Magic sets or GW armies. Plus, it has practical advantages -- it was originally picked, in part at least, because it allows for easy manipulation of figures and maximum visibility of figures. Diorama-builders like me would LOVE a real 3-D, completely authentic reproduction of some gaming environments, but they'd be pretty impossible to GAME in. You couldn't see your stuff, and you'd have a REAL tough time moving things around. For that, one simply has to use HA molds -- then, you can build whatever you want, as high and tall as complete as you want.

Now, all that said -- I think a modular tower set would be GREAT, and so would an accessory or extension set that included typical "castle" elements -- like more arrow slits, a drawbridge element, some castle windows, battlements, maybe even siege weaponry/defenses. There are LOTS of ways to give us a DF castle without having to make a full-on structure as opposed to a level-by-level "blueprint" of the place.

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#21966
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
Hello All,

I use a lot of the MBA stuff and I can tell you the biggest drawback is removing the roof and multiple floors and then placing them back and resetting up the floor. I personally have recreated the 3d/4d dungeon feel by buying inexpensive foam board and cutting it custom to what shap I need. That way I can lift up 1 or more floors at a time and everything remains setup. I would much rather see a pyramid set, and/or unique dungeon accessories.

my $0.02 worth
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#21967
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
Personally, I would prefer that DF completes some of their existing lines before starting yet another one.

I'm sure they would do a wonderful job on anything they set their sights on, but I would really prefer DF focuses upon sets/pieces (including many basic building elements) that people are already waiting for.


...Four cents and counting.

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#21968
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
I completely agree with Steve.

Deepen more before broadening.
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#21969
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
I don't stack. I don't like most of the buildings with removable roofs that are available on the market. I'd rather do multiple set-ups for each floor than pile things on top of each other, and interrupt line of sight for players and risk damage to pieces and minis if the stacked set-up falls down. If there is a drop-off, I'd rather tell the players about it than try to represent it in three dimensions.

A set of crenelated stone railings to match the Fantasy Dungeon line would allow builders to use standard floor tiles to represent the battlements of a castle. Stone tiles would be at an elevation of X, everything else would be ground level.

It would not be unreasonable for these railings to be 1/2" wide, as that would make them very stable (and might allow players to rest minis on top of the pieces). It might be worthwhile to design the crenelated railings (or walls, if you like) to sit on the table, snugged up next to the tiles -- no loss of floor-space on the tiles that way.
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#21970
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I seem to recall Stefan posting that sometihng like this was in the works.

That is to say, he mentioned an interest in a modular tower set, which is in some ways all we'd need to do castles -- as we can do the rest with regular Df.

L

A stackable tower is 100% times easier to do than a stackable castle. The only option to make a multilevel castle is to use much bigger pieces, which limit modularity.
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#21971
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
You're right, I was just responding to the initial post, which seemed to be a desire for a full-on stackable castle.

My impression from Stefan's earlier remarks is that DF plans to do a modular tower just by having large dungeon elements, sort of like the curved cavern wall, that combine to a large circle. Nothing all that outrageously new. Maybe he has particular architectural elements in mind, but certainly I don't get the impression that anything that breaks the traditional DF mold was planned. If the new tower would stack, it would stack just like regular DF -- only, because of the size of the pieces, you'd need a lot fewer elements to support higher levels.

I agree with those who have said we'd like to see more current themes fleshed out before exploring a tower, though. The SF people really need their furnishings etc., I'd love to see a water expansion set, and of course I think the MBS needs at least one more expansion before it's really off the ground. (I wonder, though, if the MBS is like SF, in that what it needs primarily are different sets of furnishings -- while new architectural elements are fun, this is the sort of set that would gain a lot just from being able to use it to make a tavern, then a guild hall, then a library, etc. -- plus those sorts of accessory sets could be compatible with the regular dungeon sets, as well. Of course, I'd also still campaign for a full-on town accessory set for it, with outdoor items like signposts and wells and cobblestone floor pieces, but I'm in the minority here)

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#21972
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
I've designed and built a 3-level "castle" (if you can call it that; I do for convenience sake) using sheet styrene and Plastruct/Evergreen texture sheets (brick, stone, etc.). It disassembles by floor, but it's not a "stackable" like most people would term it. The floors come apart, but they are semi-keyed to notch together. This still allows easy removal of a floor level to game inside that floor, but prevents the levels sliding off one another. since I game with it ONLY on VERY STABLE TABLES, it's not a problem.
I also have several two-story Armorcast buildings; they didn't start that way, but I DO have a Dremel scroll saw, so . . .
Again, they notch together by way of the floors, so nothing slides off.
Done in this fashion, multi-level structures are workable, and I suspect Stefan will 'inspect' several Armorcast and other gaming structures before attempting to design a multi-level building set.

I think I've posted pics of the castle before, but if I cna't find them soon, I will re-post a run of them for everyone.

Jim
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#21973
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
And, of course, there's always the IO/MadYank Lexan Tower method.

Right, Mike? ;)

Jim
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#21974
Castle Sets (Stacking Walls / Battlements / Stacking tower pieces) 7 Years, 2 Months ago  
You are refering to this post: http://www.dwarvenforge.com/dwarvenforums/viewtopic.php?id=1849

Where I posted the modular tower plans, and Stefan talked about making one. The tower can easily be done using Standard DF modules, but the whole castle, would requires very different modules, and yet still be compatible with DF. For example, big floor pieces, with integrated pillars underneath, and a supporting edge to allow to connect with existing DF modules without requiring support underneath each of them. It's not very clear, I will have to make drawings for that.



You're right, I was just responding to the initial post, which seemed to be a desire for a full-on stackable castle.
My impression from Stefan's earlier remarks is that DF plans to do a modular tower just by having large dungeon elements, sort of like the curved cavern wall, that combine to a large circle.

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