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#17023
Moving away from 'bow-tie' connectors? 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Perhaps I missed something on these boards but I've noticed that since the DoE got released, none of the newer sets are using the bow tie connectors or atleast aren't listing them. Are these going to be a thing of the past now with the new sets from here on out or are they just not getting listed in the 'The set includes' list?

Sorry if this has been discussed already.
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#17024
Moving away from 'bow-tie' connectors? 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
some guys here asked for stop them
It's a pitty because they help keep the dungeon straight
my idea was to keep them
but i think we never see them again for all the new sets
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#17025
Moving away from 'bow-tie' connectors? 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Tom,

I DON'T know, but I suspect that when Stefan originally designed DF, he assumed most play would be on polished wood, or on cafeteria Formica tables, such as in a school or college cafeteria, or college Student Union. In that environment, even the felt bottoms couldn't be relied upon to keep things still; the pieces would slide around too much without something to lock them together.
Since then, D&D and other tabletop RPGs have moved home with us baby boomers, and we either use the dining room table with the tablecloth still on it, or have a dedicated table with a plywood top. While this is not 100% true, it's at least 65-80% of all DF users. Both tops are VERY high-traction for the felted bottoms, and the bowties aren't a critical necessity any longer.
So, because the bowties are truly a pain in the @$$ to deal with, and most of us weren't using them anyway, Stefan has designed them out of the line. For which, most of us are ready to either Knight him, or Canonize him!

Thank you, Stefan!

See ya!

Jim
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#17026
Moving away from 'bow-tie' connectors? 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
I'm one of those that is glad to say good-by to bow ties. The tables we use for our games have good traction and we don't need the bow ties to hold stuff together. Moreover, it takes so long to put in the bow ties that I never used them anyway (I think I used them one single time). Most importantly, I think they detract from the appearance of the pieces, especially with the cavern set. I was very happy they were not used with the Rivers and Lakes sets. I think they also would greatly detract from the Medieval Building set's look. I hope even the Master Maze dungeon pieces made in the future don't have bow-ties either.
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#17027
Moving away from 'bow-tie' connectors? 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
I have mixed feelings about bow-ties - in some ways I like them, particularly for very small set-ups, since I often make these portable on a 2' square piece of black painted plywood. But for large setups, where I'm using a BIG piece of black fleece material as a tablecloth, they aren't needed at all - and they slow up the set-up and tear-down - the sets that have them don't looks so good unless you fit them, and having to fit them when you don't need them is a bind.

On balance, I think I prefer not having them to deal with.

Phil
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#17028
Moving away from 'bow-tie' connectors? 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Bow-ties: I'm ready to send them on their way. It seemed nice at first as the entire setup did shift around but, at least with the big 4x4 pieces, I haven't had any problems.
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#17029
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I HATE BOWTIE CONNECTORS!!!!!

It takes just as long to stick those little $%#@%'s in as it does to set up the dungeon. I quit using them after about five game sessions.
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#17030
Moving away from 'bow-tie' connectors? 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
Thanks for the information guys.

I really enjoyed using them personally. It wasnt' something we did every time but if we had to leave off in a room, it was nice to be able to drop them in and know that when we got together next it would still all be lined up. It was just a extra bit of stability that I enjoyed having in the product.
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#17031
Moving away from 'bow-tie' connectors? 8 Years, 1 Month ago  
I think it may have been more beneficial with the 2x2 pieces. I haven't had as many issues with the 4x4 pieces.
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